I moved my response handler to a different web app than the web app that starts 
the job submission task, but I was still having the issue where the response 
handler didn’t handle responses (or didn’t get responses, hard for me to tell 
which it is) until the job submission task is canceled.

I realized that my problem was the initial job submission was updating the job 
record for each job, but I was doing the update as part of the main processing, 
rather than using eval(), so the commit wasn’t done until the task ended.

The response handler also wants to update the job record, but because there is 
a pending commit, it is blocked. 

By having the job submission do the update via eval() then the commit is done 
immediately and everything works.

So the lesson is: you have to really understand the implications of updates and 
commits or you will go astray. Or maybe “concurrency is always hard”.

Thanks,

Eliot
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On 11/10/17, 9:39 AM, "[email protected] on behalf of 
Eliot Kimber" <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]> wrote:

    Yes, the client process is started from a Web app, so I think your analysis 
is correct.
    
    I will move the response handling to a separate Web app—probably should 
have done that from the start.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Eliot
    --
    Eliot Kimber
    http://contrext.com
     
    
    
    On 11/9/17, 11:46 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of 
Geert Josten" <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]> wrote:
    
        Hi Eliot,
        
        I think you kicked off your watcher job with an HTTP request, and it 
keeps
        the port open until it finishes. Only one thread can use the port at the
        same time. Use a different port for task response traffic, or consider
        running your watcher as a scheduled task.
        
        Not super robust, and probably not used in production, but i did write 
an
        alternative queque for MarkLogic. It might give you some ideas..
        
        https://github.com/grtjn/ml-queue
        
        
        Cheers,
        Geert
        
        On 11/10/17, 1:06 AM, "[email protected] on behalf
        of Eliot Kimber" <[email protected] on behalf of
        [email protected]> wrote:
        
        >I have a system where I have a ³client² ML server that submits jobs to 
a
        >set of remote ML servers, checking their task queues and keeping each
        >server¹s queue at a max of 100 queued items (the remote servers could 
go
        >away without notice so the client needs to be able to restart tasks and
        >not have too many things queued up that would just have to 
resubmitted).
        >
        >The remote tasks then talk back to the client to report status and 
return
        >their final results.
        >
        >My job submission code use recursive functions to iterate over the set 
of
        >tasks to be submitted, checking for free remote queue slots via the ML
        >REST API and submitting jobs as the queues empty. This code is spawned
        >into a separate task in the task server. It uses xdmp:sleep(1000) to
        >pause between checking the job queues.
        >
        >This all works fine, in that my jobs are submitted correctly and the
        >remote queues fill up.
        >
        >However, as long as the job-submission task in the task server is
        >running, the HTTP app that handles the REST calls from the remote 
servers
        >is blocked (which blocks the remote jobs, which are of course waiting 
for
        >responses from the client).
        >
        >If I kill the task server task, then the remote responses are handled 
as
        >I would expect.
        >
        >My question: Why would the task server task block the other app? There
        >must be something I¹m doing or not doing but I have no idea what it 
might
        >be.
        >
        >Thanks,
        >
        >Eliot
        >--
        >Eliot Kimber
        >http://contrext.com
        > 
        >
        >
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