If we do not know what an operator is, how can we know whether or not J has them?
-- Raul On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Tracy Harms <[email protected]> wrote: > My understanding is that J has no "operators" in the usual sense. The term > "operation" seems reasonable to encompass copula, verbs, adverbs, and > conjunctions. > On Sep 11, 2012 1:52 PM, "Don Guinn" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Be careful how you define operators too. + and - are commonly called >> operators. >> >> On Sep 11, 2012 10:00 AM, "Alan Stebbens" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Don, >> > >> > Your point is valid, even with Raul's explanation. >> > >> > Saying that "J has no functions" in one paragraph, and then stating later >> > that the power adverb applies to a "function" *is* confusing. >> > >> > The article that we are discussing is clearly focused on people >> unfamiliar >> > with J. So, providing a "bridge" of understanding between the more >> common >> > computing environments and the "J way" is pretty much a requirement, as >> is >> > consistency in usage of terms. >> > >> > So, Raul's dichotomy is a good point, but it will also be very useful to >> > explain that verbs correlate to functions, and adverbs correlate to >> > "operators" or functions that modify functions, etc. >> > >> > -- >> > Alan Stebbens <[email protected]> >> > >> > >> > On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Don Guinn wrote: >> > >> > > True. I was just concerned that the write-up said J has no functions >> then >> > > later referenced a verb as a function. >> > > >> > > On Sep 11, 2012 9:13 AM, "Raul Miller" <[email protected] (mailto: >> > [email protected])> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Personally, I think of that dichotomy this way: >> > > > >> > > > "verbs" are a grammatical construct. >> > > > "functions" are a mathematical construct. >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Raul >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected] >> (mailto: >> > [email protected])> wrote: >> > > > > Excellent article. Might want to clarify what you mean when you say >> > J has >> > > > > no functions. Then later you say that power applies to a function. >> > Maybe >> > > > > say that verbs are like functions in other languages. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sep 11, 2012 8:05 AM, "Konrad Hinsen" < >> [email protected](mailto: >> > [email protected])> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Konrad Hinsen writes: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here's a blog post about J that I published a few days ago, >> > carefully >> > > > > > avoiding >> > > > > > > to cite J in the title :-) >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> http://khinsen.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/the-ultimate-calculator-for-android-and-ios/ >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Comments welcome. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your comments. I have fixed all the mistakes >> > and >> > > > > > typos that were reported. I'll also think about the suggestions >> for >> > > > > > improvement/extension. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Konrad. >> > > > > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > > For information about J forums see >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > For information about J forums see >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > For information about J forums see >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > > >> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
