"Normal use" for me invariably means referring to sample code.
Especially when using addons, i.e. all the time.

I think you had it right with j602.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 6:00 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote:
> The intention was that Help is for learning about J and all other top level
> menus for normal use of J.
>
> On 10 September 2015 at 09:35, Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > I imagine we should blame OSX's user interface guidelines for that
>> change.
>>
>> @Raul - the Apple guidelines are just that: guidelines.
>>
>> Apple believes in Helps like kamikaze pilots believed in parachutes.
>> I'd like to see the old "Studios" menu back. To me, Studios are part
>> of the IDE, not the Help system.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > You can find Labs under the Help -> Studio menu.
>> >
>> > I imagine we should blame OSX's user interface guidelines for that
>> change.
>> >
>> > Note that some labs are still best run under J602. (And at least some
>> > of that is my fault.)
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > --
>> > Raul
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Jim Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I’ve been retired for 15 years and have been away from J for about ten
>> of those years.  Now I would like to use it again for simulations to test
>> some theories.
>> >>
>> >> Years ago, I used APL*PLUS and APL2 on mainframe computers.  Then I
>> used J with no problems on a couple of PCs running Microsoft and then on an
>> Apple Mac Mini.  The PCs are gone and the Mac Mini is now defunct, perhaps
>> due to a lightning surge.  I believe I was running J602 on that computer
>> ten years ago, or whenever.
>> >>
>> >> Now I have a late 2013 model Apple iMac (2.9 GHz Intel Core i5) running
>> OS X Yosemite Version 10.10.5 (the latest version).
>> >>
>> >> I have no idea what has been the impetus behind your recent J803 and
>> J804.  Was it to support mobile devices?  I have installed JQt and Jconsole
>> on my computer but see no Labs.  In order to get back into using J, I would
>> like to refresh myself via the Labs.  What is the latest version of J
>> supporting Labs?  Should that version work with my current computer and
>> operating system?  Should I try to get J602 running, since that suited my
>> needs previously?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for any tips you can give me.  I’m feeling stymied.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Adams
>> >>
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