A real keyboard (bluetooth) works very nicely with the iPad. If I don't
have a real keyboard, I'll fall back on one of the pointer pens as they are
much better than my fingers.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Mike Day' via General <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Eric.
>
>
> Please don't worry too much about this,  as it doesn't seem to chime with
> anyone else's experience.
>
> I'm happy to learn to play with JHS under Windows for now.  Once (if) I'm
> familiar with that,
>
> I might return to the iPad.
>
>
> iPads are marvellous,  but it's not at all easy to find out how to program
> on them!
>
> I have managed to do a tiny bit of J on mine using the J "App", when the
> laptop isn't available,  or
>
> just to see if it's even possible,  but it's rather clunky as you will
> know,  especially without a real
>
> keypad.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27/02/2017 00:11, Eric Iverson wrote:
>
>> The jijx failure indicates your machine is not allowing any use of
>> localstorage.
>>
>> This is strange as it works fine on my iPhone (with same ios version as
>> your iPad) and on my older iPad.
>>
>> A search shows that localstorage will fail with private browsing, but
>> should works otherwise.
>>
>> If possible, please google iPad private browsing and try to figure out if
>> you are using it and try to turn it off. I'd give you the steps, but it is
>> convoluted and the web pages do it with a series of screen shots.
>>
>> JHS is a somewhat strange beast. Getting familiar first on your desktop is
>> probably a good idea.
>>
>> If it turns out the localstorage is a problem, I can easily make a version
>> which ignore the error. It is not required for function, but only for
>> performance.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 6:22 PM, 'Mike Day' via General <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I've tried cutting the size of ~user as shown below.
>>>
>>> However,  you asked that I check behaviour in jijx.  I now realise that
>>> even trying to enter,  say,
>>>     a =: i.10
>>> in the jijx page leads to an error,
>>> "ev_log_enter failed: QuotaExceededError( .... " finishing as before.
>>>
>>> This is less tolerant than the folder navigation problem - the notional
>>> cursor stays stuck at the
>>> end of the line.  Editing that line (which I can do!) to, say, aaaa
>>> followed by an attempted RETURN
>>> yields the same error,  and not a J value error.
>>>
>>> Earlier,  I'd moved ~user and subfolders to another folder,  and
>>> recreated
>>> ~user with
>>> subfolders temp. I had then copied back the subfolders config (and
>>> configqt - though presumably
>>> unnecessary here) to the new bare ~user.
>>>
>>> Those quota excess errors still appear when navigating.  As the
>>> navigation
>>> occurs anyway,
>>> I suppose it's tolerable if irritating!   So I might as well return the
>>> fat ~user to its rightful
>>> place.
>>>
>>> I had been running safari.    I don't think I'm using Private Browsing.
>>> jijx also fires up ok using
>>> the Firefox broswer/app,  and in the Google Chrome browser.
>>>
>>> As for presetting the ip address,  I got into iPV4 properties to choose
>>> to
>>> avoid automatic
>>> allocation,  but after closing,  Windows came along and reset the adapter
>>> anyway overriding
>>> my choice!  Never mind,  I can live with that.
>>>
>>> Anyway,  I didn't know much about JHS,  so perhaps I'll just try to learn
>>> how to use it under
>>> Windows 10,  which I understand better than iOS 10.
>>>
>>> Sorry it's not more positive
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25/02/2017 23:20, 'Mike Day' via General wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric & Greg
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the various thoughts.  It's getting a bit late now (UK),  so
>>>> I'll have a look
>>>>
>>>> at your replies properly tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25/02/2017 22:41, Eric Iverson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A search gets some hits on that error message on the iPad vs Private
>>>>> Browsing. I think it unlkikely you have turned on private browsing. And
>>>>> if
>>>>> you had, my understanding is the jijx would now fail. But it can't hurt
>>>>> to
>>>>> check an make sure you have not set private browsing.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 3:04 PM, 'Mike Day' via General <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Recent correspondence under a similar heading led me to have a go with
>>>>> my
>>>>>
>>>>>> iPad,  as a client,  linking to my laptop as a server.  I had thought
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> might be
>>>>>> possible but I hadn't realised there was guidance on how to set about
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> The laptop runs 64-bit Windows 10,  and the iPad is, of course, iOS,
>>>>>> 10.2.1
>>>>>> To my surprise,  it was quite easy to set up;  my ZoneLabs firewall
>>>>>> appparently
>>>>>> tolerates calls to 65002.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of questions though:
>>>>>> a)  having made contact from the iPad, and running menu/ide/jfile, the
>>>>>> file list
>>>>>> defaults to ~user/temp .  Now, it's probably a fault of my own making,
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> far too many files both in temp and in user,  but it appears at first
>>>>>> glance that
>>>>>> I'm not able to navigate up the file tree,  nor to any of the folders
>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>> horizontally below [action] .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The error message is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ajax(d) failed: QuotaExceededError (DOM Exception 22): The quota has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> exceeded
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HOWEVER,  the navigation does appear to happen - it just takes time!
>>>>>> eg,  selecting "../" from the vertical list,  or "User" or "user" from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> horizontal display
>>>>>> results,  quite slowly,  in the "user" folder being listed vertically,
>>>>>> after closing the
>>>>>> error dialogue box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> b)  I thought I'd best make the laptop server address a favourite to
>>>>>> save
>>>>>> on tedious typing
>>>>>> and alliteration.   Windows DOS (!) ipconfig had shown my address as
>>>>>> 192.168.0.6,  so my
>>>>>> "favourite" location was saved as "192.168.0.6:65002/jijx#" (I don't
>>>>>> remember entering
>>>>>> "#" but never mind)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this evening, in re-establishing the JHS server on the laptop to
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> write this email,
>>>>>> ipconfig tells me that the laptop's address is now 192.168.0.5.  So I
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> to fiddle with my
>>>>>> favourite fastkey to amend the 6 to a 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is probably a Windows set-up thing,  but have you any tips to get
>>>>>> round this
>>>>>> annoyance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
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