a lot of incompatible changes in gl2 and graphic since j804. Sorry for
that. But graphics and other addons within the same j release should work
together without any problems

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 8:03 PM Devon McCormick <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm doing this under Windows and it used to work but now I'm stuck on
> version 8.04 until I can figure out how to do this basic thing.
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:54 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > jandroid uses different implementation for low level graphic routines.
> > Mixing Qt and Android won't work unless none of those low level wd
> commands
> > have been called.
> >
> > viewmat itself can work without jandroid and Qt, eg it works for both
> > jconsole and jhs.
> >
> > previous jconsole can call Qt for some graphic functions such as reading
> > and writing graphic files, but this doesn't work for linux server if X11
> is
> > not run. Since applicability of this function is limited , it will be
> > decommited. The pplatimg addon will be updated to provide functions of
> > reading and writing of graphic files on Windows, linux and MacOS.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 12:56 PM Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I figured as much but I don't see why being Android should prevent me
> > from
> > > exercising graphic capabilities.
> > > There used to to be something like "IFQT" that I subverted in the 8.04
> > > version to allow me to do graphics from a console session.
> > > It looks like the two were aggregated for some reason.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 8:49 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > IFJA is set for jandroid, users shouldn't set or unset it by
> > themselves.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 8:44 AM Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks but I already set "IFJA=: 1" and loaded the imagekit but am
> > now
> > > > > getting this value error:
> > > > >
> > > > >    viewmat 1 o. +"0/~ 0.01*i:1j99
> > > > > |value error: iad
> > > > > |   parm=.(2&(3!:4)1),EncoderQuality,2&(3!:4)1 4,    iad qual
> > > > > |writeimg_pplatimg_[:3]
> > > > >
> > > > > (though for "viewmat").  Also, for "read_image" I get this:
> > > > >
> > > > >    img=. read_image >{.jpgfls
> > > > > |value error: readimg_jqtide_
> > > > > |read_image[0]
> > > > >      13!:0]0
> > > > >     fexist >{.jpgfls
> > > > > 1
> > > > >    >{.jpgfls
> > > > > $32coffee-prepAtEMP_BN-VO836_1013CO_16RH_20171013110413.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > But this may be self-inflicted based on my earlier hack to 8.04.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Raul Miller <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The offending code is probably this, from addons/media/imagekit/
> > > > > > imagekit.ijs:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NB. conditional flip of bytes
> > > > > > set_cflip=: 3 : 0
> > > > > > if. IFJA do. RGBSEQ=. RGBSEQ_j_ else. RGBSEQ=. RGBSEQ_jqtide_
> end.
> > > > > > try.
> > > > > > if. RGBSEQ do. cflip=:|."1 else. cflip=:] end.
> > > > > > catch. smoutput IFJA{::'Requires JQT';'Requires JAndroid' end.
> > > > > > ' '
> > > > > > )
> > > > > > set_cflip''
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On my machine, cflip is |."1 and this gets used when encoding rgb
> > > data
> > > > > > for viewmat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyways, you could work around this by predefining RGBSEQ before
> > > > > > loading the script.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope this helps,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Raul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 8:29 PM Devon McCormick <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK - it looks like pacman got it but now I'm suffering
> > > self-inflicted
> > > > > > > wounds because I've hacked my own 8.04 to overcome this error
> > > which I
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > got: Requires JQT.
> > > > > > > Since I run J console under emacs, I don't have Qt loaded.  I
> > don't
> > > > > > > remember what I did to load this even when not running under Qt
> > but
> > > > > > imagine
> > > > > > > I can figure it out again.  If anyone can point me directly to
> > the
> > > > > > > offending code, that would be great.  On the other hand, it
> would
> > > > also
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > great if the standard installation did not have this
> dependency.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Devon McCormick <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do I have to get this from github or does pacman get this?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 8:09 PM, chris burke <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> I don't know why the imagekit 807 addon was not built after
> > the
> > > > move
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> github. I updated the manifest version and it has now built
> > > > > correctly.
> > > > > > > >> Also, it has not changed recently so the older version
> should
> > > > work.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks for pointing this out.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Raul Miller <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > I am visiting my sister, who has her own schedule, and in
> > some
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > in-between times, I've got Cliff Reiter's "Fractals
> > > > Visualization
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > J" 4th edition, Part 2 to keep me entertained.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > I've also got the j807 beta from a week or so ago
> installed
> > on
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > >> > machine, and the required addons aren't available yet for
> > this
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > >> > of J.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > The smart thing to do would be to install j804 or j805.
> > > > Generally
> > > > > > > >> > speaking if you're going to get anything practical done
> with
> > > > > > external
> > > > > > > >> > interfaces (including graphics coding), you're going to be
> > > > working
> > > > > > > >> > with back versions of software. Arbitrary people like
> > > > deprecating
> > > > > > > >> > interfaces for arbitrary reasons which means that if
> you're
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > "current version" interfaces tend to stop working,
> > > arbitrarily.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > But I'm not all that great at choosing the smart option,
> so
> > > I'm
> > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > >> > to figure out how to get Cliff's stuff working under j807.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Looking closer, ... we're in the process of moving the j
> > > addons
> > > > > over
> > > > > > > >> > to github, but the current release still pulls them from
> > > > > > > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/jal/
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > There's a j804 and a j805 directory there, and in this
> > context
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > >> > seems no reason to prefer one over the other. Also, I'm on
> > osx
> > > > > > > >> > (darwin) so I'll focus on those instances of the packages
> > for
> > > > now.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > This means the working versions of the packages are:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/jal/j805/addons/media_imagekit_1
> .
> > > > > > > >> > 0.7_darwin.tar.gz
> > > > > > > >> >
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jal/j805/addons/graphics_fvj4_1.0.
> > > > > > > >> > 17_darwin.tar.gz
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Interestingly, j806 drops back to version 1.0.6 of the
> > > imagekit
> > > > > > addon,
> > > > > > > >> > for whatever reason.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Anyways, j807, which is what I'm using, doesn't have the
> > > > imagekit
> > > > > > > >> > addon at all. It does seem to have the same graphics_fvj4,
> > > and:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Updating server catalog...
> > > > > > > >> > Done.
> > > > > > > >> > Installing 1 package of size 1.7 MB
> > > > > > > >> > Downloading graphics/fvj4...
> > > > > > > >> > Installing graphics/fvj4...
> > > > > > > >> > Done.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > ... it seems to be installed, but:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >    load'graphics/fvj4'
> > > > > > > >> > not found:
> > > > > /users/rauldmiller/j64-807/addons/graphics/fvj4/fvj4.ijs
> > > > > > > >> > |file name error: script
> > > > > > > >> > |       0!:0 y[4!:55<'y'
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > ... apparently, it's not that kind of package.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > And, for media_imagekit, I pulled down a copy of the
> > > > > > > >> > media_imagekit_1.0.7_darwin.tar.gz file and unpacked it in
> > my
> > > > > > > >> > j64-807/addons directory, And... so far, it seems to work.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > So, anyways, maybe the j805 media_imagekit files could be
> > > > included
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> > the j807 jal repository? There might be problems, but I
> > > imagine
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > >> > we can work through them...
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > > >> > Raul
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