Okay, I think that I get it.

It looks like 't' is the only thing that triggers the incorrect message. When I 
have entered 'x' or 's' that does trigger a value error, so there is certainly 
something funny going on with 't'. And 't' continues to generate
+------------+-----------+----+------+-----------+----+-------+
|invalid name|not defined|noun|adverb|conjunction|verb|unknown|
+------------+-----------+----+------+-----------+----+-------+
until it is initialized, so it is not a first time encounter only issue. 

Cheers, bob


> On May 11, 2022, at 11:26, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Bob
> 
> I still think this has nothing to do with the edit window.
> 
> When the Playground is first loaded, using t in Term should give a value
> error, not the boxed list that is shown. That t is also defined in the edit
> window is immaterial.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 11:18 AM 'robert therriault' via General <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, in that case you are initializing t and would be able to use it. I
>> only get the
>> 
>> +------------+-----------+----+------+-----------+----+-------+
>> |invalid name|not defined|noun|adverb|conjunction|verb|unknown|
>> +------------+-----------+----+------+-----------+----+-------+
>> 
>> message when I try to access a noun that has not been loaded and I believe
>> that the original problem was that t was not initialized when there was an
>> attempt to use it in the edit window.
>> 
>> If you are getting messages like that after initializing t then you are
>> seeing behaviour that I am not.
>> 
>> I'm sorry that I seem to have misunderstood some of your posts and have
>> not made myself as clear as I should have.
>> 
>> Cheers, bob
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2022, at 11:11, greg heil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> if run "t" from edit pane
>>> (ctrl-enter)
>>> is this not an
>>> initialization?
>>> 
>>> certainly
>>> i can put something in t
>>> and this overrides the default..
>>> 
>>> ~greg heil
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>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> from: 'robert therriault' via General <[email protected]>
>>> to: [email protected]
>>> date: May 11, 2022, 10:59 AM
>>> subject: Re: [Jgeneral] J Playground test
>>> 
>>> Hi greg,
>>> 
>>>> I think you may be assuming that when you see the contents of the edit
>> window that it has been loaded. It is not automatically loaded, but is only
>> loaded when the user chooses to load it. I believe that is the
>> initialization that you are expecting.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if I have misunderstood.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, bob
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