+1 on moving forward to common 0.22 trunk. 0.20 was dragging on for quite a long time and, in a sense, create certain imbalance toward 0.20-centric Hadoop environment
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 02:52PM, Eli Collins wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Ian Holsman <had...@holsman.net> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Milind A Bhandarkar > > <mili...@yahoo-inc.com>wrote: > > > >> > but the other question I have which hopefully you guys can answer is does > >> > the yahoo distribution have ALL the patches from the trunk on it? because > >> if > >> > it doesn't I think that is problematic as well for other reasons. > >> > >> What are these "other" reasons ? > > > > yahoo distribution runs on our production clusters, and I do not see why any > >> production cluster should run code from trunk. > >> > >> > > right.. the trunk is not for production use. ═I wasn't suggesting that. > > > > but the trunk is what will eventually become the next release. > > > > Then someone in yahoo will have to decide if they are going to move to > > rebase their production cluster to 0.21, or just continue back-porting what > > they need to the version they are running on their clusters. > > > > and if yahoo fixes a bug in their version, it would need to be > > forward-ported over to the current trunk. which will get harder and harder > > as the paths diverge. > > > > I'm sure you've seen it happen on other projects when a major branch lands > > on the trunk, and the amount of effort it takes to reconcile them. > > Hey Ian, > > I think we're all in agreement that we need to re-convene on a common > branch that removes most of the deltas against an Apache release that > we have all accumulated (primarily security, append, trunk backports). > The open question is whether we try to come up with a common 20-based > branch or wait for 22. That's been previously discussed on this list > and there were some concerns, re-iterated on this thread, that we > should invest in 22 rather than the current 20-based branches. > > Our current plan is to reconvene with everyone on 22 - a well-tested > release with security and append should get users off the current > 20-based branches. However if you and/or the Apache community feels > that there needs to be an Apache 20-based branch and release that > reflects what people are using (security, append, various backports in > YDH/CDH) we are willing to create and maintain this branch on Apache. > > Thanks, > Eli > > > > > > ═- Milind > > > > -- > > Milind Bhandarkar > > (mailto:mili...@yahoo-inc.com) > > (phone: 408-203-5213 W) > >
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