Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Committers could be given commit access long before having project > member status, and would thus be able to commit but not vote. This > makes it possible to keep a high bar for membership of the project but > a lower bar for committing. > > Is this possible/wanted?
As I understand it, this was the initial structure. A Contributor posts a patch, the patch is reviewed and committed. At some point, a frequent Contributor is offered the opportunity to become a Committer. The Committer is allowed to commit a change, but the PMC is still responsible to review the commit. At some point, hopefully not too far down the pike, the Committer is voted into the PMC. Until that happens, the Committer does not have a binding vote. Cannot have a binding vote, because to have one outside of the legal structure would expose the Committer. Leo Simons wrote: > I think I don't like it. If you're committing, you're doing the work. > If you're doing the work, you should have a say in everything that > concerns your work (meritocracy). Because the PMC is responsible for reviewing every change (and because we have SCM), it allows someone to be granted commit karma before they have earned sufficient trust to be entrusted with managing the project. If you have an active newcomer, the process can be significantly hampered by having to go through e-mailed patches, so you can grant commit karma to streamline the process, without having to go straight to PMC status. This is a simple structure. It simplifies a lot of the various sets of rules and interactions, and it explains some of the oddities present in our current conflicting rule sets. My understanding is that this is the way that the ASF was designed to work, but things got bent during expansion. Ironically, the original "rules" scale better, since the PMC oversight requirement cannot be removed. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]