...and - there is still the issue if Manfred Geiler might be a champion of the project as an ASF official?
Can you clear this up? Would be great, regards, Martin On 8/22/05, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > since it seams very quite about this proposal, I have to say, that we > (the MyFaces PMC) has voted to incubate this project. > > How is the schedule? What are the next steps? Has the incubator PMC > still to vote? > > Thanks for any update! > > .Matthias > > > On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 18:59 +0200, Arvid Hülsebus wrote: > > Proposal for new sub-project Tobago (of MyFaces) > > > > 18th August 2005, the Tobago Team (contributions by: Udo Schnurpfeil, Volker > > Weber, Philippe Hennes, Arvid Hülsebus, Bernd Bohmann, Detlef Bartetzko) > > > > (0) Rational > > > > The goal of Tobago is to provide the community with a well designed set > > of user > > interface components based on JSF and run on MyFaces. > > > > Tobago is more than just a tag library. The following statements > > characterize > > Tobago and makes it different from other frameworks: > > > > The focus of Tobago is to create business applications without the need > > for HTML > > design. The development of Tobago pages follows more the development of > > conventional user interfaces than the creation of web pages. > > > > The UI components are abstracted from HTML and any layout information > > that does > > not belong to the general page structure. The final output format is > > determined > > by the client/user-agent. > > > > A theming mechanism makes it easy to change the look and feel and to > > provide > > special implementations for certain browsers. A fallback solution > > ensures that > > as much code is reused for new themes as possible. > > > > A layout manager is used to arrange the components automatically. This > > means, no > > manual layouting with HTML tables or other constructs is needed. > > > > A life demo can be found here: http://tobago.atanion.net > > > > The development of Tobago started in 2002. > > > > (0.1) Criteria > > > > Meritocracy > > > > The Tobago project will be meritocratic. The project will therefore > > follow the > > guidelines of the Apache Foundation. > > > > We use defined roles and responsibilities like contributors and commiters. > > > > We believe in teamwork and in the consens brought by discussions that > > are done > > on a mailing list. Votings will establish the final 'will' of the community. > > > > Community > > > > We believe that Tobago will attract a stable community sufficient in > > size. All > > MyFaces users/developers are potential Tobago users/developers. Tobago > > will make > > MyFaces even more attractive. > > > > Core Developers: > > > > Tobago was mainly developed by six employees of Atanion while working (if > > applicable) and in spare time. However, at the moment two of them could be > > counted as real experts or core developers and the others have a good > > knowledge > > of the project. > > > > All developers will file the Contribution License Agreement. Atanion > > GmbH will > > file the Corporate Contribution License Agreement. > > > > Two PMC members from the MyFaces project also want to become Tobago > > committers: > > Martin Marinschek and Matthias Wessendorf (both PMCs Myfaces). > > > > Alignment: > > > > Tobago is a framework built on top of JSF and therefore works well with > > MyFaces. > > The project makes use of several Apache libraries like Commons, Taglibs > > and Ant. > > > > (0.2) Warning signs > > > > Orphaned products: > > > > All active developers would like to become Tobago Committers or PMC > > members and > > plan to remain active in the project. > > > > Inexperience with open source: > > > > The current Tobago developers have experience with open source projects. > > However > > in the past this was restricted by using open source projects and > > participating > > on there mailing lists. No active development was done. > > > > Martin Marinschek and Matthias Wessendorf do have a lot of experience > > with open > > source. > > > > Homogenous developers: > > > > From scratch the project will start with six developers of one company > > and two > > additional developers from other companies. We hope to attract more > > individual developers soon. > > > > Reliance on salaried developers: > > > > Tobago was developed in working and spare time and does not rely on salaried > > developers. However Atanion will support the project in the future by > > dedicating > > 'work time' to Tobago. > > > > No ties to other Apache products: > > > > Tobago makes excessive use of serveral components of the Jakarta > > Commons. It is > > developed on the Tomcat JSP/Servlet container. (However it runs also on > > other > > containers.) Tobago is the ideal addition for MyFaces. > > > > A fascination with the Apache brand: > > > > We respect and admire the work done by the Apache Foundation. Various open > > source projects of the foundation have saved us an almost unlimited > > amount of > > development time or money in case of not using commercial products. We > > want to > > give something back to the community and become part of it. > > > > (1) Scope of subprojects > > > > As mentioned above Tobago is the ideal addition for MyFaces. Therefore > > we prefer to > > become a subproject of MyFaces. > > > > (2) Initial source > > > > The source code can be found under: > > > > http://www.atanion.net/repos/asf/tobago/trunk/ > > > > The source code is provided under the Apache License, version 2.0. > > > > A precompiled WAR for the demo can be found at: > > > > http://www.atanion.com/tobago/tobago-example-demo.war > > > > (3) ASF resource to be created > > > > (3.1) Mailling-list > > > > At the moment the existing mailing lists of the MyFaces project should be > > sufficient to discuss and announce Tobago topics. If not, we need the > > following > > lists: > > > > * tobago-dev > > * tobago-user > > * tobago-pmc > > > > (3.2) Subversion > > > > A subversion repository with one module 'incubator-tobago'. > > > > (3.3) Issue tracking > > > > At the moment the MyFaces JIRA module could be used. > > > > (4) initial set of committers > > > > (4.1) Already ASF committers > > > > * Martin Marinschek, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PMC MyFaces) > > * Matthias Wessendorf, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PMC MyFaces) > > > > (4.2) Other committers > > > > * Udo Schnurpfeil, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Volker Weber, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Philippe Hennes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Arvid Hülsebus, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Bernd Bohmann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Detlef Bartetzko, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > (5) Apache sponsoring individuals > > > > Tobago is sponsored by MyFaces. Mentors are Martin Marinschek and Matthias > > Wessendorf from the MyFaces project (both PMCs). 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