On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:34 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 11:12:15PM -0800, Roy Fielding wrote:
No, the proposal is all about SOA. What you are saying is that the
*actual plan* is about SCA. What I am saying is that the proposal
needs to match the actual plan, preferably a plan that is actionable,
rather than a statement of how happy the SOA community may someday
be.
Absolutely agreed.
As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the proposal other than vague
hand-waving. -- justin
It's isn't *that* bad.
It includes implementations - actual code - in C++ and Java of a set
of external specs (SCA/SDO) that are integrated with Apache Tomcat,
Apache HTTPD, Apache Axis and the contributors have a roadmap that
includes Axis2, Geroniomo, ActiveMQ, ServiceMix, Agila, Synapse....
So there's code and a conscious reach-out to other Apache communities.
I think the problem was that it never clearly stated early on in the
proposal "We have an implementation of SCA in two languages , want to
continue to work on it in the Apache style and work with other Apache
communities" (And then follow with "mediate leading thought-leaders
to leverage synergy with other SOA stakeholders in WEB 2.0's
distributed marketplace ontology" to get the necessary buzzword
points.... )
geir
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