Alan, There is something going on that i can't really put my finger on.
- The large # of committers who don't really commit - The presence of ActiveCluster/ActiveIO which were separate projects in codehaus (is the active cluster code inside the milestone? i don't see a separate jar). - The constant unrelenting pressure to make activemq part of Geronimo so that all the 27 people become Geronimo committers - The lack of discussion on say the OpenWire stuff. I see one status email[1] that's it. the other 26 people don't seem to have any opinion on it. Are people talking offline? - People commenting on the silence on the dev mailing list.[2] Somehow all of this is making me queasy... [1] - http://www.mail-archive.com/activemq-dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg00138.html [2] - http://www.mail-archive.com/activemq-dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg00099.html thanks, dims On 3/15/06, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > > > > >> This is not a vote, but simply a discussion about the graduation of > >> ActiveMQ from the Incubator. > >> > > > > Personally, I do not consider ActiveMQ ready. And I do believe that it > > should be targeting TLP status. It has its own community, is separately > > releasable and useable in many projects, not just as part of a J2EE server, > > and would do better as its own TLP. To reiterate, these are my views. The > > Incubator PMC may share or differ in its collective view. > > > > Keep in mind that I am not saying anything negative about ActiveMQ. I like > > the project. I have had quite constructive discussions with members of the > > project about possibly using the project. It simply has a way to go before > > it is ready as a TLP. For that matter, as others have pointed out, it still > > has some way to go in migrating infrastructure, of which JIRA is only one > > issue, and is being addressed. > > > > Generally speaking, I concur with the point made by others: new projects > > should learn from the mistakes of others, not emulate them. > > > > > > I only see infrastructure issues in your list of concerns that would > prevent the graduation of ActiveMQ. > > You express an opinion that it should be a TLP but mention that it has a > long way to go before it's ready for that. Can you enumerate what > remains, aside from the infrastructure issues, to be done to graduate as > a TLP? If AMQ has less inspiring aspirations and was to initially land > as a sub-project, can you enumerate what remains to be done to graduate? > > IMO, aside from the infrastructure issues, AMQ is good to go as a > sub-project. It should start there and if it's worthy enough, evolve > into a TLP. I see no good reason for it to stay in the incubator at > this time. > > > Regards, > Alan > > > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
