On 11/10/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/10/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] > is where incubation happens. The reality is that all the real > incubating happens on the PPMC private and dev lists. > > We can correct this in one of two ways: recognize what actually is > happening, or make what we say is happening actually work. > > If we go the first route, then we should treat this list as an > announcements list. Results of votes for releases and graduation are > posted here, and incubator PMC members will be given 72 hours to raise > an issue.
That's how I treat it - if I can get enough PMC votes without having to call a vote here.
> If we go the second route, then we need to set the expectation that most > PMC members participate in most votes. I think it's unrealistic to expect that the majority of the members of the incubator PMC will be involved in most votes. I mean heck, I've rarely seen the majority of PMC members of any project be involved in ANY release vote, let alone in a situation like the incubator where many PMC members have little personal interest in the majority of the releases.
Yup - the Incubator is not a community. It'll always be a community of communities like the ASF.
Honestly though, if podlings are having trouble getting people on the PMC to review and vote on their releases I wonder if that says something in and of itself.
Usually that they predate the realisation that a podling needs 3 mentors to not have this problem. Hen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]