While I think that this thread is important to take place before the potential podling graduates, I have a simple question that is about the point of order. We don't really need to resolve this particular issue before we vote on this podling do we? Won't this issue be a problem for the mentors and the podling community to resolve? If they can't then the podling bids a cheery adieu.

IIUC, the only thing that they are missing is a champion and a a few mentors, no?

Again, I'm not trying to quash this thread.  Just curious.  :)


Regards,
Alan

On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote:

Hello,
As for migrating from Hibernate, I see several alternatives for persistence.
Enterprise Java experts, please, could you comment on this?

1. stackoverflow.com suggested using Spring as a persistence technology. My
friend said that it requires coding, but you get manageable, clear and
transparent application. We already use Spring as a dependency.

2. Using JPA from Java 6 JPA allows using less libraries and being more compatible with Google App Engine. The latter may help general users to host
the web application.

3. Does OpenJPA suggested by Niclas offer any benefits compared to JPA? Synergy is good, but there may be other benefits I cannot see. Sorry for my
ignorance.

Thanks.
P.S. Ross, it would be really nice to get you as a mentor.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote:

2009/11/18 Sebastian Wagner <seba.wag...@gmail.com>:
we would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator.

Full Proposal:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal

Calling a vote is premature. Therefore my vote is -1.

Your proposal does not yet have a confirmed champion and you don't
have sufficient mentors yet.

I'm still toying with the idea of mentoring, but I'm still unclear
with respect to the legal situation. I've not seen a clear consensus
that it will ever be possible to produce a cleanly licensed
application that does not require the use of LGPL/GPL code.

Ross

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