On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 16:42, Kevin Lau <kevin...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: >> First time posting to this list and has been reading it for few days now. >> >> Permit my naive question, can both organizations (TDF and Apache) separate >> from their own licensing dependencies and establish an independent entity >> (or something that works) to develop some code that can benefit both >> parties? > > Foundations are extremely time consuming, imposing a burden on an > ecosystem that sucks away a lot of potential. The Apache Software > Foundation has been able to pull it off *only* because we've been > working on it for a dozen years. We also have thousands of committers > and hundreds of Members to ask for volunteer time. > > Starting a Foundation from scratch is a serious pain in the ass. Ask > Florian about trying to get TDF started :-) > > The TDF has (actually) not even been completed. They're still going > through the paperwork. I don't think they're in a position to suggest > starting *another* foundation :-P (and I know that Apache would just > stare blankly and ask "why?") > > And note that even after you get the paperwork completed, then you > have ongoing time commitments in terms of handling donations, filing > taxes, legal issues, member meetings, marketing and publicity, > conferences, trademark management, outreach, tons of infrastructure, > ... etc etc etc. And I didn't even get to the "project governance" > part where the community is writing code!! > > To be honest, I get a bit sad every time somebody says "let's create a > Foundation". I just shake my head, knowing the amount of pain they > just signed themselves up to. I've been involved with the ASF for over > a decade. I've seen it from the beginning. It is non-trivial, and I > don't wish that on anybody.
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