What we can say for certain is that Oracle won't be turning around and suing ASF or any downstream user of the Apache-licensed codebase for infringement. Same goes for IBM once they start contributing to it. The patent provisions in the license only kick in on entities who contribute to us, so it's advantageous to seek out contributions from as many orgs as possible.
----- Original Message ---- > From: Donald Whytock <dwhyt...@gmail.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 12:58:26 PM > Subject: Re: Remediation ... > > Considering the code was owned by Oracle, would Oracle and IBM have > slugged out any IP issues between them before now? > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> > >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >> Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 12:46:41 PM > >> Subject: Re: Remediation ... > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Michael Meeks <michael.me...@novell.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > IMHO this is vastly preferable to some smoke and lawyer (IANAL) > >> > > filled room that issues edicts to remove features and veto patches > >> > > without a clear public rational on a public list (cf. the above). > >> > > >> > All work at the ASF that involve changes to the code base will be done > >> > in smoke-free and publicly archived mailing lists. > >> > > >> > If you have questions relating to prior work done by groups other than > >> > the ASF, I encourage you to contact those groups directly. > >> > > >> > >> Despite the tone, I do think Michael makes a serious point. Rob did >indicate > >> that IBM has IP concerns and it would be good to have more details before > >> Apache takes on any responsibilities for the code. > > > > I don't see how this has any bearing on the vote. The ASF doesn't require > > entities to disclose whether or not any particular contribution includes a > > patent license. If anything is certain about this podling, given the >mentors > > there will be no tolerance for any unusual off-list collusion or non-public > > decision-making regarding contributions of any kind. > > > > If Rob or any other IBM person has issues with what LO distributes, they can > > take it up with the TDF. If at some point there needs to be a discussion >about > > outstanding patent claims regarding the code grant to the ASF, that is > > best >done > > in the confines of a podling, on the podling's public dev list. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
