On 16/11/2011, at 12:36 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > My personal perspective is > that incubation shouldn't generally take more than a year. That > doesn't mean that there won't be exceptions, and in a few rare cases, > some that go well beyond that arbitrary time limit, but the point is > that those should be the exception rather than the rule.
I agree with that period of time, but would avoid throwing that number around too much as they tend to become unwritten rules. A much better criteria is the other you've mentioned... > But > my feeling is that there needs to be an expectation that a podling > produces AT THE VERY MINIMUM a credible plan that they are executing > on which will lead to graduation at some point. If they fail to > produce such a plan, or fail to execute on that plan (within reason), > they should be asked to explain themselves. If they fail to do so, > the incubation at the ASF should cease. For those interested, this was the topic of my talk at ApacheCon this year: http://lanyrd.com/2011/apachecon-north-america/skdqx/ We ask for these in each podling report, but the "top 3 things" tend to not have enough detail (actions to take), or list the wrong types of things without reasoning. I think we should be asking podlings to have a more complete graduation plan by their 3rd month - even if it has gaps they know they need to fill, or places it may change in future. Cheers, Brett -- Brett Porter br...@apache.org http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org