Hi Noel,

On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> Chris,
> 
>> I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
>> I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
>> much longer.
> 
> I spoke with Bill this evening, and have indicated to him that I'd like for
> you and he to already start working on the re-org proposal.  We'll need to
> vote on it, but there seems to be interest in that direction.

Yep, I saw it. 

There's nothing much more to be re-worked, and it's not just between
me and Bill. Greg Stein commented too. So did others today, including 
Joe, Leo, Karl, Marvin and Benson.

If you find something incomplete about my proposal, please be specific,
and let's discuss it. But it's not for this committee to VOTE on. This committee
is unfortunately not functional and has served its purpose to the foundation.
I am working on a proposal not for this committee, but for the board itself,
to dissolve the Incubator, period, and the Incubator VP role. 

If I am elected as Incubator VP chair in the interim, fine, but it will only be
to facilitiate what I believe to be in the best interests of the foundation: to 
move towards the proposal, resolution, and implementation of my proposal.

Thank you for your great service to the Incubator community and to 
the ASF. And thanks to the Incubator PMC over the years, and to all the
folks who made the Incubator what it is today. 

It's served its purpose and IMHO time to call the Incubator "delivered", and
the need for the role of Incubator VP, complete.

> 
> However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least
> analogous.  You would not be getting off so easily.  ;-)

:) Nope, it doesn't actually. Please read the thread carefully. That is 
what is being suggested by Bill and by Greg, but I see room to convince
them otherwise. I think they'll see the light. 

Cheers,
Chris

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