On 6 February 2012 16:07, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6 February 2012 15:29, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: >> On 6 February 2012 15:20, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> As I read it, http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-exceptions >>> only applies to files with no creative content. >>> >>> AFAICT this is not the case here. >> >> Can you tell me why you think this is the case? >> >> As a reminder, in my original post I said: >> >> "There is no significant IP in these templates. they are mostly >> boilerplates that are intended to be replaced by the end user" > > Are IP and creativity the same thing?
In the context of my statements here, yes. In the wider context we could probably debate that for quite some time ;-) > Seems to me that the templates do contain creative content. Agreed. Ross > >> Ross >> >>> >>> On 6 February 2012 15:03, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: >>>> Perfect - thanks Ate >>>> >>>> On 6 February 2012 14:54, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote: >>>>> On 02/06/2012 03:30 PM, ant elder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Ate Douma<a...@douma.nu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 02/06/2012 02:44 PM, ant elder wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. >>>>>>>> <mfrank...@mitre.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am sure you know this (especially since you first pointed me at this >>>>>>>>> page), but the release FAQ [1] makes it sound like you need the >>>>>>>>> header, >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> you assume your templates are source: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which Files Must Contain An ASF License Text? >>>>>>>>> Every source file must contain the appropriate ASF License text. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am no lawyer, so I will defer to someone who has more experience >>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> me to help you determine whether your snippets count as source. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think that is a bug in the Release FAQ. What i've been told in the >>>>>>>> past but which i can't find links to right now, is that the top level >>>>>>>> LICENSE file covers everything anyway and the individual license >>>>>>>> headers aren't strictly necessary especially for source files without >>>>>>>> significant IP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Really? That then would be quite some 'bug' IMO. >>>>>>> I can't recall have heard it said like this before, instead confirmation >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the above rule quite often. Exceptions (no headers) only being allowed >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> sources without real IP value. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ate >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMHO if the headers are problematic for Wookie in >>>>>>>> those files then it would be ok to just not include the header. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...ant >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've just asked for clarification about this over at legal - >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-124 >>>>>> >>>>> Seems to me this has been asked and answered before: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-exceptions >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ...ant >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >>>> Programme Leader (Open Development) >>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >> Programme Leader (Open Development) >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
