We had a very similar discussion about the back word compatibility classes/package names when Subversion graduated and we deemed it OK for them. In fact, I believe they still of org.tigris packages in their codebase long after graduation. See:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/subversion/bindings/javahl/src/org/ I don't see why we would or should hold Sqoop to a different or higher standard at this point. I agree with Jukka that if we, as a foundation, would like to re-address this, fine, take it to trademarks@ and start a discussion. However, from an INCUBATOR standpoint, the precedent and expectations have been set. That's my $0.02 cents worth. Dan On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:25:41 PM Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <a...@toolazydogs.com> wrote: > >> Opps, I didn't see that Arvind concluded the vote. I still stand by my > >> opinion that there are some things that are not solely up to the people > >> that are doing the work. Complete migration to the the org.apache.* > >> package space is one of them. > > > > No worries. I respect your opinion and if Apache feels that this is > > important enough to make explicit then certainly Sqoop should make the > > changes. Short of that I don't see why we should hold Sqoop to a > > higher standard than is expected of other Apache projects. (that's > > _my_ opinion ;-) ) > > Right. > > Basically the graduation vote by the IPMC is about determining whether > the PPMC is capable of conducting itself according to the Apache Way > and Apache policies on it's own. I didn't have time to look deeper > into Sqoop yet, but all the +1s in this vote suggest that the Sqoop > PPMC is ready to take on that responsibility. Along with that > responsibility comes the right to make value judgements on topics like > this where existing policies aren't clearly spelled out. > > Personally I think we should let the vote result stand with guidance > to the new Sqoop PMC to discuss the matter with the branding team at > trademarks@ to seek Apache-wide consensus. I encourage anyone who > feels strongly about this (the point being made clearly has some > merit) make their case to trademarks@ as it's IMHO not really the task > of the Incubator to be forming new policy on this, especially with all > the recent talk about scaling down the ambitions of the IPMC. > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
