Hi, [dropped infra@, I believe most interested people are already on general@]
Let's decouple this thread from the specific issue of the ManifoldCF release. There's a long tradition of Apache releases like the ones ManifoldCF is producing, so turning this suddenly into a blocker is IMHO bad business, especially since no legal issues are involved (this is about Apache policy). If we do come to the consensus that releases like this are contrary to Apache policy, then affected projects should be given a reasonable amount of time to adapt. Also, let's make a clear distinction between "binary distributions" (i.e. the packages that result from building one of our source releases) and "binary dependencies" (i.e. binary distributions of upstream projects). AFAICT there's clear consensus that binary distributions are *not* official Apache releases, and we've been pretty consistent about that so far. However, the word on binary dependencies is much less clear. There's explicit Apache policy (category B, etc.) that talks about binary dependencies and plenty of Apache releases contain them. This is clearly not an area where we have consensus. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Roy T. Fielding <field...@gbiv.com> wrote: > Likewise for jar files of dependencies -- they are NOT our product and they > MUST NOT be present in the source code package that is voted on for release. Citation needed. Note that the "source materials" reference you mentioned earlier is vague. It covers stuff like configure scripts in httpd releases, test files, and indeed (as far as it so far has been interpreted) binary dependencies of upstream open source projects. I'm fine if this point needs to be clarified and some current practice terminated, but let's follow standard process to do so. > If any ASF member is aware of an Apache release package that is not 100% > open source code, you are hereby instructed to DELETE it from our servers. What hat are you holding here? Which packages explicitly are you referring to? BR, Jukka Zitting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org