On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> And we could simply ignore all this, as there was never any actual intent > to assume an analogous situation. It was a flip comment. That's all. Please > stop reading more into things, and escalating discussions. One might test if the analogy holds. It clearly does not past the superficial level. With CloudStack there is no legacy of 2 decades of infrastructure with no overview. There is no decade as an "Open Source" project. There is no fork trouble. I do think it is pertinent to pay attention to the trade press and blogosphere. > Have fun. Move along. Fun! Here's to it. Regards, Dave > > -g > On Apr 4, 2012 11:47 AM, "Mohammad Nour El-Din" <nour.moham...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi... >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 03.04.2012 20:10, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh come on... 1st of all, it's a joke. >>>>> >>>>> One I do not find funny at all. >>>> >>>> You should have. It was funny. Maybe you need a >>>> funny bone transplant? >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> And 2ndly, people could complain that we should >>>>>> refuse the donation and force them to >>>>>> put all their code/energies into OpenStack... >>>>> >>>>> CloudStack and OpenStack seem to be complementary and they use the >> same >>>>> license. I expect collaboration between these projects to increase not >>>>> decrease. >>>>> >>>> >>>> LO and AOOo are complementary and they are setup so that >>>> code can move in a very Pro-LO direction. I would like >>>> collaboration between these projects to increase not >>>> decrease. >>> >>> There is a post on Wired that discusses the split between CloudStack and >>> OpenStack. [1] >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>> [1] http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/04/citrix-cloudstack/ >> >> >> I read that link and IMHO: >> >> 1- I believe there is no problem that Citrix didn't find it self in >> OpenStack community and they looked into other open source communities into >> which they can invest their expertise and technology and also invest in >> building a community around that by donating that code to ASF >> >> 2- These kinds of splits I believe it happens all the time and no harm >> about it at all more specifically it has been mentioned that the split was >> a clean one and no problems emerged as a consequence >> >> 3- I don't think at all that donating CloudStack to ASF can be looked at as >> starting a *war* between open source cloud stacks in a bad way, on contrary >> I believe that different open source communities compete among each other >> in the good meaning of the word which is the main engine behind open source >> innovation that each community tries to produce the best they can >> >> 4- If what is said is that article and other related articles is true [1], >> that CloudStack is more mature and stable than OpenStack, then I believe >> that is good for ASF to have CloudStack >> >> Referrals to AOO and problems and challenges happened at that time as >> accepting the donation of such big project, I think we now have a better >> opportunity to deal better with the case of CloudStack because we can learn >> from what happened back at the time of AOO >> >> That said I believe it is better to focus on the proposal and the >> challenges we have when/if accepting CloudStack, which I believe that we >> should accept such proposal >> >> [1] - >> >> http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/ >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks >> - Mohammad Nour >> ---- >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >> - Albert Einstein >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
