I'd like to clarify the "Current Status" section to say "Apache License 2.0" -- I didn't catch that when we were editing the initial proposal text. But it doesn't look like I have permission to edit the wiki page. If that's something that can be granted, my wiki username is DaveBrondsema
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>wrote: > Couple of minor issues: > > Firstly this needs to go into the incubator Wiki - done see > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AlluraProposal > > Under "reliance on salaried developers" the proposal states "At > present, almost all development on Allura is done on salaried time. It > is understood that expanding the developer community to the point > where this is not the case, is a goal of incubation." This isn't quite > accurate. We don't have a problem with salaried time, we only worry > about single sources of salaried time. I've taken the liberty (as a > mentor) to change it to "At present, almost all development on Allura > is done on salaried time ***from a single company***. It is understood > that expanding the developer community to the point where this is not > the case, is a goal of incubation." > > Ross > > On 18 June 2012 17:17, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > PROPOSAL: Admit Allura to the Apache Incubator > > > > = Abstract > > > > Allura is a modular and extensible free/open source software platform > for software development. You can read more about Allura’s feature set in > the Allura wiki at https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ > > > > = Proposal > > > > Allura is an open source implementation of a software "forge", a suite > of web applications that manages source code repositories, bug reports, > discussions, mailing lists, wiki pages, blogs and more for any number of > individual projects as well as for collections of projects. > > > > SourceForge.net is running an instance of Allura, and Allura itself is a > project managed there: http://sf.net/p/allura/. Additionally, > http://software.dlr.de/ is using Allura. > > > > The name Allura itself has two meanings. It’s Sardinian slang for “And > then …” It’s also the name of Princess Allura, from Voltron. Stories vary, > as with any good project name. > > > > Allura has been designed to be the code and project hosting platform for > SourceForge, the largest place for Open Source software tools and > applications: home to over 3 million users, hosting a catalog of over > 300,000 distinct projects and serving over 40 million unique visitors per > month and over 15 million downloads per week. Allura was designed to be > scalable, delivering only what projects need, and our aim is to collaborate > with ASF to get the wider contributions and make it the richest all-in-one > solution to design, write, debug and promote individual projects as well as > collections of projects. > > > > = Background > > > > Since the late 1990’s, SourceForge has provided a place for people to > create and run Open Source projects. In the last two years, the back-end > has been completely rewritten, and has been Open Source since the beginning > of that process. This rewritten code comprises Allura. > > > > Allura is written in Python, and provides a framework within which one > can select source control (svn, git, mercurial, etc), issue trackers, > discussion forums, and various other tools associated with the software > development process. > > > > SourceForge.net itself is running on an instance of Allura. > > > > = Rationale > > > > Software development projects can be complicated beasts. By providing > all of the necessary tools, and offering a choice of tools in most > categories, Allura promotes best practice in software development. This > product can be used either inside a company - as some are already doing at > their own premise, such as http://software.dlr.de/ - or as an open forge > like SourceForge, to encourage software projects to be done right. > > > > As Apache’s mission is to produce software for the public good, the > Allura project fits right in by enabling others to also produce software > using good development practices. > > > > We also believe strongly in giving project communities as much control > over their destiny as possible, even if this means enabling them to take > their project elsewhere. Allura is built to give projects complete control > over their data, and Allura itself being Open Source contributes to this by > giving them input into the hosting environment as well. Having Allura > within Apache, and outside of direct SourceForge control, will give our > development communities even more control of their projects. > > > > = Current Status > > > > Allura has been developed under the Apache Software License from the > beginning. > > > > = Meritocracy > > > > We plan to do everything possible to encourage an environment which will > support a meritocracy. At the moment all committers are either SourceForge > employees or former SourceForge employees. We are already working with some > universities to help students to build their career path collaborating with > our open source project. > > > > = Community > > > > Allura has been developed in the open since its inception, and has a > community of developers outside of the company that actively watch > development, and submit tickets and patches. We are interested in building > that community more, and adding more developers from outside of our > organization. > > > > SourceForge has a long history of helping Open Source projects build > their communities, and strongly believes in the value of the community, > even over the value of the code itself. We look forward to diversification > of our community, and the vibrancy this will grant to the code. > > > > Additionally, Allura supports the concept of “neighborhoods”, which > allow for grouping of related projects into shared project management, > which may be helpful with related projects within the ASF, were projects > interested in adopting Allura as their development platform. > > > > = Alignment > > > > Allura is about software development, and has grown out of a community > which is about open software development. The love for Open Source in > general, and the Apache governance model in particular, is deep seated in > all of the folks currently on the Allura team. > > > > While Allura itself enables any development methodology, the core Allura > team is very much believers in the Apache Way. > > > > = Known Risks > > > > The existing Allura development team has the SourceForge website firmly > in mind when developing. This means supporting our project developer > communities and addressing their developer experience. > > > > We have a deep personal interest in seeing this project succeed, and, > thus, our company be successful. This may may result in different > priorities from members of the community that come from outside of > SourceForge. > > > > However, we firmly believe that it’s exactly that diversification of the > developer community that will make the product more successful. > > > > = Orphaned products > > > > As SourceForge’s entire business is based around this product, there’s > no risk that the project development will be abandoned, regardless of the > outcome of this proposal or a subsequent incubation. We’re in it for the > long haul. Additionally, several other businesses are based around older > versions of this product, and have expressed interest in ongoing > participation. > > Inexperience with Open Source > > > > The initial developers of this project have a long association with Open > Source. SourceForge itself has been a hub of Open Source development, so to > speak, for more than ten years, and many of the initial developers on this > project have been involved with Open Source for as long or longer. > > > > = Homogeneous Developers > > > > The initial set of active developers are, indeed, almost all from the > same company. Although there are some names on the initial committer list > from outside the company, most of these are former employees who are not > very active any more. > > > > We are hoping to expand that group of developers, in order to have wider > input from our user community to improve the developer experience for those > using Allura as a development infrastructure. > > > > = Reliance on Salaried Developers > > > > At present, almost all development on Allura is done on salaried time. > It is understood that expanding the developer community to the point where > this is not the case, is a goal of incubation. > > Relationships with Other Apache Products > > > > It is hoped that some Apache projects might adopt Allura as their > development infrastructure. We don’t know how this might come about, but > would love to see that outcome. Indeed, overcoming objections to using > Allura as a development infrastructure will no doubt lead to enormous > product improvements. > > > > With regard to direct connections to Apache projects, Allura itself uses > Apache Solr for search functionality, and the source control component > supports Apache Subversion, in addition to other revision control > technologies. > > > > = An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand > > > > We are indeed Apache fans. We look to Apache as a model of good > community governance methodologies, and recommend these methodologies to > projects hosted at SourceForge all the time. If this constitutes an > excessive fascination with Apache, then we’re guilty as charged. > > > > However, we’re interested in joining the ASF family, not for the brand > recognition, but in order to benefit from this community governance model. > We already have a recognized brand, and we already have infrastructure. > We’re interested in learning, as well as teaching, about how Open Source > projects are run, and doing it better, as well as the obvious benefits to > our project community and the product itself. > > > > = Initial Source > > > > The Allura source code has been developed in the open, in Git, on the > SourceForge infrastructure, from day one. It has been under the Apache > License, 2.0, also from day one. The entire code history can be seen here: > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/git/ > > > > The project began in July of 2010. > > > > = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan > > > > > > Geeknet owns copyright and other intellectual property rights on what > its employees produce. The patches that we've received so far have had a > "Signed-off-by" flag, to indicate licensing under AL2 See > https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Contributing%20Code/ for details. > > > > = External Dependencies > > > > External dependencies include MongoDB, Apache Solr, and numerous Python > packages. > > > > = Cryptography > > > > None in the codebase, only in 3rd-party dependencies > > > > = Required Resources > > > > Allura is a development forge for Open Source software. It is currently > self-hosted on the SourceForge.net instance, and we strongly believe that > eating our own dogfood is central to the success of our project. As such, > several of the items in this section request that we remain self-hosted, > presumably on a VM running Allura. > > > > = Mailing lists > > > > In addition to the self-hosted web-based discussion forums, Allura > requires the following mailing lists: > > > > allura-private > > allura-dev > > allura-users > > allura-commits > > > > = Subversion Directory > > > > Input needed from Incubator PMC - Allura is currently developed in Git, > and we’d prefer to keep it that way. We also desire to have our code be > self-hosted - ie, to develop Allura within the Allura tool. > > > > = Issue Tracking > > > > Input needed from Incubator PMC. The Allura product includes a ticket > tracker, and we would prefer to use all of our own tools, as much as > possible, in the development of our product. > > > > = Initial Committers > > > > This is the initial committer list on the Allura project. > > > > kad...@geek.net Kyle Adams > > tvansteenbu...@geek.net Tim Van Steenburgh > > jar...@gmail.com Yaroslav Luzin > > patr...@geek.net Patrick Lenz > > wwit...@geek.net Wayne Witzel III > > john...@geek.net Cory Johns > > brond...@apache.org Dave Brondsema > > r...@arborian.com Rick Copeland > > jste...@geek.net Jenny Steele > > sscrog...@geek.net Sonny Scroggin > > galopp...@apache.org Roberto Galoppini > > Sponsors > > > > = Champions > > > > Rich Bowen - rbo...@apache.org > > Dave Brondsema - brond...@apache.org > > > > > > = Nominated Mentors > > > > Rich Bowen - rbo...@apache.org > > Ross Gardler- rgard...@apache.org > > Greg Stein - gst...@apache.org > > Jim Jagielski - j...@apache.org > > > > = Sponsoring Entity > > > > Incubator PMC > > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Dave Brondsema Principal Software Engineer - sf.net Geeknet -- ==== This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. 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