The proposal looks great. I was wondering what operations will drill support ? For example the dremel paper doesn't talk about joins, will drill support joins ?
Sorry if I missed it, is there a dev mailing list I could subscribe to ? Cheers, Karthik On 13 August 2012 23:55, Bernd Fondermann <bernd.fonderm...@gmail.com>wrote: > great proposal and a very promising mentor lineup. > > Have fun, > > Bernd > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Ted Dunning <tdunn...@apache.org> wrote: > > Abstract > > ======== > > Drill is a distributed system for interactive analysis of large-scale > > datasets, inspired by Google’s Dremel ( > > http://research.google.com/pubs/pub36632.html). > > > > Proposal > > ======== > > Drill is a distributed system for interactive analysis of large-scale > > datasets. Drill is similar to Google’s Dremel, with the additional > > flexibility needed to support a broader range of query languages, data > > formats and data sources. It is designed to efficiently process nested > > data. It is a design goal to scale to 10,000 servers or more and to be > able > > to process petabyes of data and trillions of records in seconds. > > > > Background > > ========== > > Many organizations have the need to run data-intensive applications, > > including batch processing, stream processing and interactive analysis. > In > > recent years open source systems have emerged to address the need for > > scalable batch processing (Apache Hadoop) and stream processing (Storm, > > Apache S4). In 2010 Google published a paper called “Dremel: Interactive > > Analysis of Web-Scale Datasets,” describing a scalable system used > > internally for interactive analysis of nested data. No open source > project > > has successfully replicated the capabilities of Dremel. > > > > Rationale > > ========= > > There is a strong need in the market for low-latency interactive analysis > > of large-scale datasets, including nested data (eg, JSON, Avro, Protocol > > Buffers). This need was identified by Google and addressed internally > with > > a system called Dremel. > > > > In recent years open source systems have emerged to address the need for > > scalable batch processing (Apache Hadoop) and stream processing (Storm, > > Apache S4). Apache Hadoop, originally inspired by Google’s internal > > MapReduce system, is used by thousands of organizations processing > > large-scale datasets. Apache Hadoop is designed to achieve very high > > throughput, but is not designed to achieve the sub-second latency needed > > for interactive data analysis and exploration. Drill, inspired by > Google’s > > internal Dremel system, is intended to address this need. > > > > It is worth noting that, as explained by Google in the original paper, > > Dremel complements MapReduce-based computing. Dremel is not intended as a > > replacement for MapReduce and is often used in conjunction with it to > > analyze outputs of MapReduce pipelines or rapidly prototype larger > > computations. Indeed, Dremel and MapReduce are both used by thousands of > > Google employees. > > > > Like Dremel, Drill supports a nested data model with data encoded in a > > number of formats such as JSON, Avro or Protocol Buffers. In many > > organizations nested data is the standard, so supporting a nested data > > model eliminates the need to normalize the data. With that said, flat > data > > formats, such as CSV files, are naturally supported as a special case of > > nested data. > > > > The Drill architecture consists of four key components/layers: > > * Query languages: This layer is responsible for parsing the user’s query > > and constructing an execution plan. The initial goal is to support the > > SQL-like language used by Dremel and Google BigQuery ( > > https://developers.google.com/bigquery/docs/query-reference), which we > call > > DrQL. However, Drill is designed to support other languages and > programming > > models, such as the Mongo Query Language ( > > http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Mongo+Query+Language), Cascading ( > > http://www.cascading.org/) or Plume (https://github.com/tdunning/Plume). > > * Low-latency distributed execution engine: This layer is responsible for > > executing the physical plan. It provides the scalability and fault > > tolerance needed to efficiently query petabytes of data on 10,000 > servers. > > Drill’s execution engine is based on research in distributed execution > > engines (eg, Dremel, Dryad, Hyracks, CIEL, Stratosphere) and columnar > > storage, and can be extended with additional operators and connectors. > > * Nested data formats: This layer is responsible for supporting various > > data formats. The initial goal is to support the column-based format used > > by Dremel. Drill is designed to support schema-based formats such as > > Protocol Buffers/Dremel, Avro/AVRO-806/Trevni and CSV, and schema-less > > formats such as JSON, BSON or YAML. In addition, it is designed to > support > > column-based formats such as Dremel, AVRO-806/Trevni and RCFile, and > > row-based formats such as Protocol Buffers, Avro, JSON, BSON and CSV. A > > particular distinction with Drill is that the execution engine is > flexible > > enough to support column-based processing as well as row-based > processing. > > This is important because column-based processing can be much more > > efficient when the data is stored in a column-based format, but many > large > > data assets are stored in a row-based format that would require > conversion > > before use. > > * Scalable data sources: This layer is responsible for supporting various > > data sources. The initial focus is to leverage Hadoop as a data source. > > > > It is worth noting that no open source project has successfully > replicated > > the capabilities of Dremel, nor have any taken on the broader goals of > > flexibility (eg, pluggable query languages, data formats, data sources > and > > execution engine operators/connectors) that are part of Drill. > > > > Initial Goals > > ============= > > The initial goals for this project are to specify the detailed > requirements > > and architecture, and then develop the initial implementation including > the > > execution engine and DrQL. > > Like Apache Hadoop, which was built to support multiple storage systems > > (through the FileSystem API) and file formats (through the > > InputFormat/OutputFormat APIs), Drill will be built to support multiple > > query languages, data formats and data sources. The initial > implementation > > of Drill will support the DrQL and a column-based format similar to > Dremel. > > > > Current Status > > ============== > > Significant work has been completed to identify the initial requirements > > and define the overall system architecture. The next step is to implement > > the four components described in the Rationale section, and we intend to > do > > that development as an Apache project. > > > > Meritocracy > > =========== > > We plan to invest in supporting a meritocracy. We will discuss the > > requirements in an open forum. Several companies have already expressed > > interest in this project, and we intend to invite additional developers > to > > participate. We will encourage and monitor community participation so > that > > privileges can be extended to those that contribute. Also, Drill has an > > extensible/pluggable architecture that encourages developers to > contribute > > various extensions, such as query languages, data formats, data sources > and > > execution engine operators and connectors. While some companies will > surely > > develop commercial extensions, we also anticipate that some companies and > > individuals will want to contribute such extensions back to the project, > > and we look forward to fostering a rich ecosystem of extensions. > > > > Community > > ========= > > The need for a system for interactive analysis of large datasets in the > > open source is tremendous, so there is a potential for a very large > > community. We believe that Drill’s extensible architecture will further > > encourage community participation. Also, related Apache projects (eg, > > Hadoop) have very large and active communities, and we expect that over > > time Drill will also attract a large community. > > > > Core Developers > > =============== > > The developers on the initial committers list include experienced > > distributed systems engineers: > > * Tomer Shiran has experience developing distributed execution engines. > He > > developed Parallel DataSeries, a data-parallel version of the open source > > DataSeries system (http://tesla.hpl.hp.com/opensource/). He is also the > > author of Applying Idealized Lower-bound Runtime Models to Understand > > Inefficiencies in Data-intensive Computing (SIGMETRICS 2011). Tomer > worked > > as a software developer and researcher at IBM Research, Microsoft and HP > > Labs, and is now at MapR Technologies. He has been active in the Hadoop > > community since 2009. > > * Jason Frantz was at Clustrix, where he designed and developed the first > > scale-out SQL database based on MySQL. Jason developed the distributed > > query optimizer that powered Clustrix. He is now a software engineer and > > architect at MapR Technologies. > > * Ted Dunning is a PMC member for Apache ZooKeeper and Apache Mahout, and > > has a history of over 30 years of contributions to open source. He is now > > at MapR Technologies. Ted has been very active in the Hadoop community > > since the project’s early days. > > * MC Srivas is the co-founder and CTO of MapR Technologies. While at > Google > > he worked on Google’s scalable search infrastructure. MC Srivas has been > > active in the Hadoop community since 2009. > > * Chris Wensel is the founder and CEO of Concurrent. Prior to founding > > Concurrent, he developed Cascading, an Apache-licensed open source > > application framework enabling Java developers to quickly and easily > > develop robust Data Analytics and Data Management applications on Apache > > Hadoop. Chris has been involved in the Hadoop community since the > project's > > early days. > > * Keys Botzum was at IBM, where he worked on security and distributed > > systems, and is currently at MapR Technologies. > > * Gera Shegalov was at Oracle, where he worked on networking, storage and > > database kernels, and is currently at MapR Technologies. > > * Ryan Rawson is the VP Engineering of Drawn to Scale where he developed > > Spire, a real-time operational database for Hadoop. He is also a > committer > > and PMC member for Apache HBase, and has a long history of contributions > to > > open source. Ryan has been involved in the Hadoop community since the > > project's early days. > > > > We realize that additional employer diversity is needed, and we will work > > aggressively to recruit developers from additional companies. > > > > Alignment > > ========= > > The initial committers strongly believe that a system for interactive > > analysis of large-scale datasets will gain broader adoption as an open > > source, community driven project, where the community can contribute not > > only to the core components, but also to a growing collection of query > > languages and optimizers, data formats, data formats, and execution > engine > > operators and connectors. Drill will integrate closely with Apache > Hadoop. > > First, the data will live in Hadoop. That is, Drill will support Hadoop > > FileSystem implementations and HBase. Second, Hadoop-related data formats > > will be supported (eg, Apache Avro, RCFile). Third, MapReduce-based tools > > will be provided to produce column-based formats. Fourth, Drill tables > can > > be registered in HCatalog. Finally, Hive is being considered as the basis > > of the DrQL implementation. > > > > Known Risks > > =========== > > > > Orphaned Products > > ================= > > The contributors are leading vendors in this space, with significant open > > source experience, so the risk of being orphaned is relatively low. The > > project could be at risk if vendors decided to change their strategies in > > the market. In such an event, the current committers plan to continue > > working on the project on their own time, though the progress will likely > > be slower. We plan to mitigate this risk by recruiting additional > > committers. > > > > Inexperience with Open Source > > ============================= > > The initial committers include veteran Apache members (committers and PMC > > members) and other developers who have varying degrees of experience with > > open source projects. All have been involved with source code that has > been > > released under an open source license, and several also have experience > > developing code with an open source development process. > > > > Homogenous Developers > > ===================== > > The initial committers are employed by a number of companies, including > > MapR Technologies, Concurrent and Drawn to Scale. We are committed to > > recruiting additional committers from other companies. > > > > Reliance on Salaried Developers > > =============================== > > It is expected that Drill development will occur on both salaried time > and > > on volunteer time, after hours. The majority of initial committers are > paid > > by their employer to contribute to this project. However, they are all > > passionate about the project, and we are confident that the project will > > continue even if no salaried developers contribute to the project. We are > > committed to recruiting additional committers including non-salaried > > developers. > > > > Relationships with Other Apache Products > > ======================================== > > As mentioned in the Alignment section, Drill is closely integrated with > > Hadoop, Avro, Hive and HBase in a numerous ways. For example, Drill data > > lives inside a Hadoop environment (Drill operates on in situ data). We > look > > forward to collaborating with those communities, as well as other Apache > > communities. > > > > An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand > > ============================================== > > Drill solves a real problem that many organizations struggle with, and > has > > been proven within Google to be of significant value. The architecture is > > based on academic and industry research. Our rationale for developing > Drill > > as an Apache project is detailed in the Rationale section. We believe > that > > the Apache brand and community process will help us attract more > > contributors to this project, and help establish ubiquitous APIs. In > > addition, establishing consensus among users and developers of a > > Dremel-like tool is a key requirement for success of the project. > > > > Documentation > > ============= > > Drill is inspired by Google’s Dremel. Google has published a paper > > highlighting Dremel’s innovative nested column-based data format and > > execution engine: http://research.google.com/pubs/pub36632.html > > > > High-level slides have been published by MapR: TODO > > > > Initial Source > > ============== > > There is no initial source code. All source code will be developed within > > the Apache Incubator. > > > > Cryptography > > ============ > > Drill will eventually support encryption on the wire. This is not one of > > the initial goals, and we do not expect Drill to be a controlled export > > item due to the use of encryption. > > > > Required Resources > > ================== > > > > Mailing List > > ============ > > * drill-private > > * drill-dev > > * drill-user > > > > Subversion Directory > > ==================== > > Git is the preferred source control system: git://git.apache.org/drill > > > > Issue Tracking > > ============== > > JIRA Drill (DRILL) > > > > Initial Committers > > ================== > > * Tomer Shiran (tshiran at maprtech dot com) > > * Ted Dunning (tdunning at apache dot org) > > * Jason Frantz (jfrantz at maprtech dot com) > > * MC Srivas (mcsrivas at maprtech dot com) > > * Chris Wensel (chris and concurrentinc dot com) > > * Keys Botzum (kbotzum at maprtech dot com) > > * Gera Shegalov (gshegalov at maprtech dot com) > > * Ryan Rawson (ryan at drawntoscale dot com) > > > > Affiliations > > ============ > > The initial committers are employees of MapR Technologies, Drawn to Scale > > and Concurrent. 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