Benson Margulies wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > > Benson Margulies wrote: > >> > >> So, I voted for the release without making a detailed IP check (just > >> signatures, buildability, etc) based on the state in the clutch. > > > > That's pretty worrying. A vote for a release is a verification that it is a > > legally defensible release. No-one should get voting without doing a full > > review. > > Ross, please clarify your view. If you think that every voter on every > release at Apache is checking every single file for a correct header, > then I think that there's a significant gap between theory and > practice. If you are focussed in incubator issues, read on. > > In fact, it *is* a legally defensible release, unless the clutch is > lying about IP clearance. Some missing or malformed headers do not > make it legally defective, just not up to our usual standards. I did > check the critical characteristics that make up a legally defensible > release.
Clutch deliberately does not mention anything about "IP clearance". People need to look for that detail elsewhere. Also it deliberately does not have a column for whether their RAT report has issues. Those reports need to be reviewed in detail. > What I want to know about this is whether incubator.apache.org/clutch > is lying to me when it claims that this project has released before. I do see that you indicated elsewhere in this thread that you did misinterpret that aspect of the table. Is there something that we can do to make it more clear? > I also think that we might have an incubator-specific issue here. When > I participate in the PMC of running project, I depend on the PMC to > verify headers and such either (a) at checkin, or (b) with rat. I do > not think it's a great idea to leave that for release voting. However, > I shouldn't be depending on podling members to know enough to do this, > and apparently I can't depend on mentors. So perhaps the IPMC needs to > take a more mandatory view of RAT. > >> We seem to have a problem here. I've pinged two of the mentors here > >> chosen by people in my gmail 'to' cache; could we get some input? Henning did say here ages ago that he had stopped being a Mentor, but people from the relevant podlings still need to modify their lists of mentors. -David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
