FWIW: IMO the Incubator still serves a crucial role in the social and legal aspects of *creating* an Apache project and community. The Probationary TLP opens us up to more risk for what I can see as no real benefit or reduction in effort or resources.
Also, the unwash public is aware of the distinction between ASF Incubator projects and "real" PMCs and there is the understanding that Incubator podlings are still finding their way, and that the quality of their release and their community structure may not be on the same level as official TLPs. This distinction will now be lost. Again, I see risk with no real benefit or reason. Some podlings don't make it, and that's a shame, but it's a relatively painless situation. When a TLP, probationary or not, doesn't make, it's much more painful. And because it's a TLP, there is more incentive to "keep on trying" to make it work and it forces the board to be involved. The board is a hammer, not a scalpel. So I am +1 for Stratos as a regular podling, but -1 (NOT a veto) as a probationary TLP (since I am -1 for the concept in general). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
