Am 15.09.13 06:34, schrieb Marvin Humphrey:
Greets,

Here are notes by shepherds and Mentors extracted from our September 2013
report.

Shepherd participation was light this month; a few stalwarts seem to have
quietly fallen away.  Thanks to them for their past efforts...  If there are
volunteers out there interested in shepherding, please speak up -- we have
slots.  (Sheperding can be as minimal as scanning the mailing list archives to
ensure that a podling's Mentors have been engaged over the last quarter, or it
can involve observations and opinions as per the style of most present
shepherds.)

The full exchange regarding Drill has been included in this compendium, though
it was removed from the Board meeting agenda and thus will not end up the
Board's minutes.  The conversation continued on general@incubator at
<http://s.apache.org/ORg>.

Marvin Humphrey

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Apache: Project Drill

Shepherd notes:

   (Dave Fisher/wave)

     I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
     and on most web pages.  There is a lot of activity but it does not seem
     to include any drive to make any release.  There is tremendous community
     building activity.  Heavy on community and light on Release/IP.

   Rebuttal to shepherd notes: (Ted Dunning/tdunning)

     I think that the Dave is substantially incorrect in his assessment that
     there "does not seem to include any drive to make any release".  This is
     factually and patently incorrect.  I have asked that the shepherd
     reconsider this comment and retract it as it does not reflect the
     substantial progress that the community is making towards a release.

   (Isabel Drost-Fromm/ Apache Mahout, mentor Drill)

     Dave, as for the missing disclaimer - there are still a few branding
     issues with Drill. The project is currently on it's way to the first
     release - for a discussion on an initial RC and issues related to it see
     also http://markmail.org/thread/gl2z6dbcsjkbdelx In the process of
     preparing this release a couple issues surfaced that seemed more
     fundamental and are now in the process of being fixed. The Drill
     community reacted very positively to the input they got and are
     diligently fixing problems. Mentors provided several links both to
     Apache-wide as well as Incubator-specific documentation on what needs to
     be checked for an Apache release. The next RC will show how helpful that
     turns out to be with fixing the existing problems.

   (Grant Ingersoll, mentor)

     Unlike most Incubator projects, Drill is starting from scratch code-wise
     and community-wise and thus it will take longer to release, IMO.  AFAICT,
     the community has sustainable development underway.  That being said, I
     was just thinking it needed to do a release and then lo and behold there
     was an RC and a vote.  As Isabel points out, the community has responded
     well to the feedback on the release.  Once this release is out, I would
     expect the community to release more often, but other than that, I think
     the community is developing well, and is, in fact, doing some novel
     community building things like Google Hangouts that are open to anyone
     and which I think are very positive.

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Kalumet

Shepherd notes:

   (rvs) Look like project is on track. Nothing jumped out at me as requiring
   any special attention. Mentors seem to be pretty engaged and steering the
   project in the right direction.

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MRQL

Shepherd notes:

   (rvs) Project looks reasonably well off -- no major surprises. I was a
   little bit surprised by a very low JIRA activity but on the other hand
   they've got an exemplary Wiki and ML traffic is not too shabby either.

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S4

Shepherd notes:

   (Dave Fisher/Wave) S4 knows how make releases. Is concerned about community
   growth and think that may impede graduation.  I think that they are
   actually ready to graduate.

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Streams

Shepherd notes:

   (rvs) Look like project is on track. Nothing jumped out at me as requiring
   any special attention, except it would be nice to have to have a second
   release out (since the first release was done immediately after entering an
   incubation).

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Wave

Shepherd notes:

Mentor notes:

   Ben Laurie and Vincent Siveton have stepped down as Mentors, leaving the
   project with two active mentors. Currently this is not an issue.
   (christian)

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