Hi guys, thanks to the last mail of Matt do you think I can start a VOTE for this proposal? If not what is missing?
*Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/9/19 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > hehe right. > > thks > > *Romain Manni-Bucau* > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* > > > > 2013/9/19 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> > >> I discussed this with Romain and someone else (can't recall who) before he >> submitted this proposal. My knee-jerk response was that a software grant >> would be required, but then recalled the discussion at [1]. This leaves >> the impression that the podling could proceed with merely IBM's good will, >> which has been established at [2]. >> >> Regards, >> Matt >> >> [1] http://markmail.org/message/ajmuxmxfdrcurswp >> [2] http://markmail.org/message/5mvf5pzyiuakob4w >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:25 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> >> > Just wondering, even though the RI is ASL2, do we need to get IP >> > clearance to fork? >> > >> > I think this last came up with BeanShell. >> > >> > John >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > JSR 352 is part of Java EE 7, so BatchEE is IMO warranted. Plus the >> > > rhyming of "Apache BatchEE" is silly and fun. >> > > >> > > $0.02, >> > > Matt >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Gerhard Petracek < >> > > gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >> easybatch is used by others already. >> > >> >> > >> regards, >> > >> gerhard >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> 2013/9/19 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >> > >> >> > >> > Ok guys, if I have 2 others +1 I update the proposal ;) (I think >> you >> > are >> > >> > right, that's why i proposed it) >> > >> > >> > >> > *Romain Manni-Bucau* >> > >> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* >> > >> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*< >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> > >> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* >> > >> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2013/9/19 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >> > >> > >> > >> > > +1, to be honest, I prefer EasyBatch as BatchEE sounds like >> related >> > to >> > >> > > JavaEE which can be confusing for the users. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Regards >> > >> > > JB >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > On 09/19/2013 01:31 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> Discussing with a colleague he proposed me another name: >> EasyBatch. >> > >> > >> Personally I like BatchEE but EasyBatch sounds quite fun even if >> > maybe >> > >> > >> too close to RestEasy ;) >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> wdyt? >> > >> > >> Romain Manni-Bucau >> > >> > >> Twitter: @rmannibucau >> > >> > >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.**com/< >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> > >> > >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/**rmannibucau< >> > >> > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> >> > >> > >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> 2013/9/18 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >>> Added you , thks >> > >> > >>> Romain Manni-Bucau >> > >> > >>> Twitter: @rmannibucau >> > >> > >>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.**com/< >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> > >> > >>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/**rmannibucau< >> > >> > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> >> > >> > >>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> 2013/9/18 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>: >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>>> Sounds interesting. >> > >> > >>>> Add me as mentor if needed. >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> Cheers >> > >> > >>>> -- >> > >> > >>>> Olivier >> > >> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2013 8:22 PM, "Romain Manni-Bucau" < >> > >> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >> > >> > >>>> wrote: >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> Dear ASF members, >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> I would like to propose the BatchEE project to the Incubator. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> The BatchEE proposal is available at: >> > >> > >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/BatchEEProposal< >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BatchEEProposal> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> I welcome your feedbacks and suggestions. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Thanks! >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Here is a copy of the proposal: >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> = BatchEE, JBatch Implementation = >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Abstract === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE will be an ASL-licensed implementation of the JBatch >> > >> > >>>>> Specification which is defined as JSR-352 (for version 1.0). >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Proposal === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE specification is an effort for defining a standard >> API >> > and >> > >> > way >> > >> > >>>>> to write batches in Java. It is integrated with JavaEE (JTA, >> > >> CDI....) >> > >> > >>>>> but works out of the box in a standalone environment. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE Project is responsible for implementing the runtime >> > >> container >> > >> > >>>>> contract for the JBatch specification. Besides the >> > implementation, >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE Project will implement the core built-in components >> that >> > >> > >>>>> further simplifies the developer complex interactions with >> other >> > >> Java >> > >> > >>>>> EE specific enterprise operations. For example, it will >> define >> > >> > default >> > >> > >>>>> reader/processor/writer for jdbc, jpa, xml/json/flat files... >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Background === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Until today writing batches in java meant using a proprietary >> > >> > >>>>> framework and link to JavaEE was quite limited (or missing). >> > JBatch >> > >> > >>>>> defines an API fixing this issue and now developpers need a >> fix. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Rationale === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Current JBatch specificatin is released, and only the >> reference >> > >> > >>>>> implementation is available but not really intended to be >> > >> maintained. >> > >> > >>>>> Moreover multiple Apache projects (geronimo, TomEE, ...) will >> > need >> > >> an >> > >> > >>>>> Apache compatible Jbatch implementation to go ahread and >> > implement >> > >> > >>>>> JavaEE 7. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Initial Goals === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> The initial goals of the BatchEE Project are >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> * Fully implement the JSR-352 specification. >> > >> > >>>>> * Attracts a community around the current code base. >> > >> > >>>>> * Active relationship with the other dependent projects to >> > >> further >> > >> > >>>>> develop some useful batch components. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == Current Status == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Meritocracy === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Initial developer of the project is familiar with the >> > meritocracy >> > >> > >>>>> principles of Apache. He knows that the open source gets >> power >> > from >> > >> > >>>>> its great developers and freedom. He also developed some >> other >> > open >> > >> > >>>>> source projects. We will follow the normal meritocracy rules >> > also >> > >> > with >> > >> > >>>>> other potential contributors. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Community === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> There is a great community within the OpenEJB, OpenWebBeans, >> > >> Geronimo >> > >> > >>>>> and TomEE Apache projects. BatchEE project is very related >> with >> > >> these >> > >> > >>>>> projects and in the some cases, it enhances these projects. >> We >> > are >> > >> > >>>>> thinking that BatchEE project gets strong community because >> it >> > >> > >>>>> complete the needed frameworks of a java developper and >> unifies >> > the >> > >> > >>>>> using of these projects. It simplifies the developer effort >> for >> > >> > >>>>> building complex enterprise applications batches. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Core Developers === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE project has been developing by the IBM then forked by >> > >> Romain >> > >> > >>>>> Manni-Bucau as a sole contributor. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Alignment === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BacthEE project will be a candidate for use in Geronimo AS >> and >> > >> TomEE >> > >> > >>>>> as a default JBatch implementation. Other projects could >> benefit >> > >> from >> > >> > >>>>> the BatchEE project as a general purpose component and >> context >> > >> > >>>>> management. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE project is closely aligned with the OpenEJB and >> > >> OpenWebBeans >> > >> > >>>>> projects perfectly. It depends on these projects to satisfy >> its >> > >> > >>>>> requirements (mainly tests). >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == Known Risks == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Orphaned products === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Even if the initial committer of the project has no plan to >> > leave >> > >> the >> > >> > >>>>> active development, it must necessary to get other committers >> > for >> > >> the >> > >> > >>>>> project. So that it less dependent on the single developer. >> The >> > >> > source >> > >> > >>>>> code of the project is well documented and new committers >> could >> > >> > easily >> > >> > >>>>> grasp the details. Initial committer continues to support >> > actively >> > >> > >>>>> this project. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Inexperience with Open Source === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Initial developer have worked on open source project before, >> > >> > including >> > >> > >>>>> OpenEJB/TomEE, OpenWebBeans, XBean... >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Homogeneous Developers === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Altough the initial committer of the project is single, >> > developer >> > >> > team >> > >> > >>>>> may be increased within the active project lifecycle from the >> > >> > >>>>> different locations. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Reliance on Salaried Developers === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Project currently has no salaried developers. All the >> > commitment is >> > >> > >>>>> done by the volunteer developer. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === Relationships with Other Apache Products === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE will likely be used in the Geronimo and Apache TomEE. >> > >> > >>>>> OpenWebBeans could bring added value for tests and >> integration >> > with >> > >> > >>>>> CDI. OpenEJB will be great to pass EE tests (JTA is mandatory >> > and >> > >> CDi >> > >> > >>>>> a must have). >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> BatchEE project initial committer is the strong supporter of >> the >> > >> open >> > >> > >>>>> source projects. Initial committer of the project thinks that >> > ASF >> > >> has >> > >> > >>>>> great place that provides wider colloboration and support of >> the >> > >> open >> > >> > >>>>> source project and it respects meritrocracy. Also, BatchEE >> > project >> > >> > >>>>> will surely be embraced by the Geronimo, TomEE, Camel and >> other >> > >> > Apache >> > >> > >>>>> projects. BatchEE project is closely related with the some of >> > the >> > >> > >>>>> other Apache projects. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == Documentation == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Currently the main documentation of the project is contained >> in >> > the >> > >> > >>>>> README.md in the source repository (see next part). >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == Initial Source == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> The source for BatchEE project that is to be imported is >> > currently >> > >> > >>>>> within the project at >> > https://github.com/**rmannibucau/batchee.git >> > >> < >> > >> > https://github.com/rmannibucau/batchee.git>and >> > >> > >>>>> is all ASL2.0 licensed. It is based on a fork of the JBatch >> RI >> > >> > >>>>> (developped by IBM) which said it was ok to fork the RI: >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> http://apache-incubator-**general.996316.n3.nabble.com/** >> > >> > >>>>> Re-DISCUSS-jbatch-impl-Apache-**td36529.html< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://apache-incubator-general.996316.n3.nabble.com/Re-DISCUSS-jbatch-impl-Apache-td36529.html >> > >> > > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == External Dependencies == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> All dependencies have Apache compatible licenses. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == Required Resources == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Mailing lists >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> * batchee-dev@incubator.apache.**org< >> > >> > batchee-...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >>>>> * batchee-commits@incubator.**apache.org< >> > >> > batchee-comm...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >>>>> * batchee-private@incubator.**apache.org< >> > >> > batchee-priv...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >>>>> * batchee-user@incubator.apache.**org< >> > >> > batchee-u...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Git repository >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/**repos/asf/batchee.git< >> > >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/batchee.git> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Issue Tracking >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> * https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/BATCHEE< >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BATCHEE> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Other Resources >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> * Wiki >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == Initial Committers == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> || '''Name''' || '''Email''' >> > >> > || >> > >> > >>>>> '''CLA''' || >> > >> > >>>>> || Romain Manni-Bucau || rmannibucau at gmail dot com >> > >> > || >> > >> > >>>>> yes || >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> == Sponsors == >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> We kindly request the Apache Incubator PMC to be the sponsor >> for >> > >> this >> > >> > >>>>> project. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Champion >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> * TBD (tbf at apache dot org) >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Nominated Mentors >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> * TBD (tbf at apacge dot org) >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >> > >> > >>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau >> > >> > >>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.**com/< >> > >> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> >> > >> > >>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/**rmannibucau< >> > >> > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> >> > >> > >>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> > >> > >>>>> --------- >> > >> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.** >> > apache.org >> > >> < >> > >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-help@incubator.apache. >> > >> > **org<general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.** >> apache.org >> > < >> > >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. >> > **org< >> > >> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > -- >> > >> > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> > >> > > jbono...@apache.org >> > >> > > http://blog.nanthrax.net >> > >> > > Talend - http://www.talend.com >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >> > >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.** >> apache.org< >> > >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. >> > **org< >> > >> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >
