On 20 November 2014 14:05, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hadrian
>
> Yes there is a Software Grant Agreement.  NSA's tech transfer folks have
> already sent that to Apache.
>
> Given that we are coming from a closed source environment you won't find
> much.  That is what this proposal is about though as we're working hard to
> change that.
>
> The github link you reference has no relationship to this project.
>
> The relationship to Apache Camel will need to be explored further as NiFi
> is often used in similar problem spaces (integration).  Camel is really
> powerful in its core purpose and has an excellent community and a great
> deal of maturity.  NiFi provides a complete dataflow application with a
> major focus on the user experience, graphical creation and real-time
> command and control of those flows.  It will be interesting as we progress
> to see how we can best integrate with projects like Camel and I am looking
> forward to hearing some of the thoughts and ideas the community comes up.
>
Thanks for the explanation, but just to be sure, similar/overlapping
projects is not a problem per se, the only real concern is if 2 communities
can grow.

rgds
jan i.



>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Sounds exciting. I have a couple of questions:
> >
> > 1. Is there a code grant? I assume so, the proposal states that the
> > project is active since 2006. What I could find [1] doesn't seem to be
> it.
> > 2. What is the overlap with Apache Camel (if any)?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Hadrian
> >
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/Nifi
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/19/2014 09:02 PM, Joe Witt wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to propose NiFi as an Apache Incubator Project.
> >>
> >> In addition to the copy provided below the Wiki version of the
> >> proposal can be found here:
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NiFiProposal
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> = NiFi Proposal =
> >>
> >> == Abstract ==
> >> NiFi is a dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
> programming.
> >>
> >> == Proposal ==
> >> NiFi supports powerful and scalable directed graphs of data routing,
> >> transformation, and system mediation logic.  Some of the high-level
> >> capabilities and objectives of NiFi include:
> >>    * Web-based user interface for seamless experience between design,
> >> control, feedback, and monitoring of data flows
> >>    * Highly configurable along several dimensions of quality of service
> >> such as loss tolerant versus guaranteed delivery, low latency versus
> >> high throughput, and priority based queuing
> >>    * Fine-grained data provenance for all data received, forked,
> >> joined, cloned, modified, sent, and ultimately dropped as data reaches
> >> its configured end-state
> >>    * Component-based extension model along well defined interfaces
> >> enabling rapid development and effective testing
> >>
> >> == Background ==
> >> Reliable and effective dataflow between systems can be difficult
> >> whether you're running scripts on a laptop or have a massive
> >> distributed computing system operated by numerous teams and
> >> organizations.  As the volume and rate of data grows and as the number
> >> of systems, protocols, and formats increase and evolve so too does the
> >> complexity and need for greater insight and agility.  These are the
> >> dataflow challenges that NiFi was built to tackle.
> >>
> >> NiFi is designed in a manner consistent with the core concepts
> >> described in flow-based programming as originally documented by J.
> >> Paul Morrison in the 1970s.  This model lends itself well to visual
> >> diagramming, concurrency, componentization, testing, and reuse.  In
> >> addition to staying close to the fundamentals of flow-based
> >> programming, NiFi provides integration system specific features such
> >> as: guaranteed delivery; back pressure; ability to gracefully handle
> >> backlogs and data surges; and an operator interface that enables
> >> on-the-fly data flow generation, modification, and observation.
> >>
> >> == Rationale ==
> >> NiFi provides a reliable, scalable, manageable and accountable
> >> platform for developers and technical staff to create and evolve
> >> powerful data flows.  Such a system is useful in many contexts
> >> including large-scale enterprise integration, interaction with cloud
> >> services and frameworks, business to business, intra-departmental, and
> >> inter-departmental flows.  NiFi fits well within the Apache Software
> >> Foundation (ASF) family as it depends on numerous ASF projects and
> >> integrates with several others.  We also anticipate developing
> >> extensions for several other ASF projects such as Cassandra, Kafka,
> >> and Storm in the near future.
> >>
> >> == Initial Goals ==
> >>    * Ensure all dependencies are compliant with Apache License version
> >> 2.0 and all that all code and documentation artifacts have the correct
> >> Apache licensing markings and notice.
> >>    * Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing for
> >> dependable release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache
> >> development process.
> >>    * Determine and establish a mechanism, possibly including a
> >> sub-project construct, that allows for extensions to the core
> >> application to occur at a pace that differs from the core application
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> == Current Status ==
> >> === Meritocracy ===
> >> An integration platform is only as good as its ability to integrate
> >> systems in a reliable, timely, and repeatable manner.  The same can be
> >> said of its ability to attract talent and a variety of perspectives as
> >> integration systems by their nature are always evolving.  We will
> >> actively seek help and encourage promotion of influence in the project
> >> through meritocracy.
> >>
> >> === Community ===
> >> Over the past several years, NiFi has developed a strong community of
> >> both developers and operators within the U.S. government.  We look
> >> forward to helping grow this to a broader base of industries.
> >>
> >> === Core Developers ===
> >> The initial core developers are employed by the National Security
> >> Agency and defense contractors.  We will work to grow the community
> >> among a more diverse set of developers and industries.
> >>
> >> === Alignment ===
> >>  From its inception, NiFi was developed with an open source philosophy
> >> in mind and with the hopes of eventually being truly open sourced.
> >> The Apache way is consistent with the approach we have taken to date.
> >> The ASF clearly provides a mature and effective environment for
> >> successful development as is evident across the spectrum of well-known
> >> projects.  Further, NiFi depends on numerous ASF libraries and
> >> projects including; ActiveMQ, Ant, Commons, Lucene, Hadoop,
> >> HttpClient, Jakarta and Maven.  We also anticipate extensions and
> >> dependencies with several more ASF projects, including Accumulo, Avro,
> >> Casandra, HBase, JClouds, Storm, Kafka, Thrift, Tika, and others.
> >> This existing alignment with Apache and the desired community makes
> >> the Apache Incubator a good fit for NiFi.
> >>
> >> == Known Risks ==
> >> === Orphaned Products ===
> >> Risk of orphaning is minimal.  The project user and developer base is
> >> substantial, growing, and there is already extensive operational use
> >> of NiFi.
> >>
> >> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
> >> The initial committers to NiFi have limited experience with true open
> >> source software development.  However, despite the project origins
> >> being from closed source development we have modelled our behavior and
> >> community development on The Apache Way to the greatest extent
> >> possible.  This environment includes widely accessible source code
> >> repositories, published artifacts, ticket tracking, and extensive
> >> documentation. We also encourage contributions and frequent debate and
> >> hold regular, collaborative discussions through e-mail, chat rooms,
> >> and in-person meet-ups.  We are committed to the ideals of open source
> >> software and will eagerly seek out mentors and sponsors who can help
> >> us quickly come up to speed.
> >>
> >> === Homogenous Developers ===
> >> The initial committers of NiFi come from a limited set of entities
> >> though we are committed to recruiting and developing additional
> >> committers from a broad spectrum of industries and backgrounds.
> >>
> >> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
> >> We expect NiFi development to continue on salaried time and through
> >> volunteer time.  The initial committers are paid by their employers to
> >> contribute to this project.  We are committed to developing and
> >> recruiting participation from developers both salaried and
> >> non-salaried.
> >>
> >> === Relationship with other Apache Projects ===
> >> As described in the alignment section, NiFi is already heavily
> >> dependent on other ASF projects and we anticipate further dependence
> >> and integration with new and emerging projects in the Apache family.
> >>
> >> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
> >> We respect the laudable Apache brand and that is certainly a factor in
> >> the decision to propose NiFi for the Apache Incubator.  We intend to
> >> provide a great deal of energy and capability to the ASF through this
> >> project.  We will be sensitive to and respectful of any overuse of the
> >> Apache brand and ensure our focus remains on how we benefit the Apache
> >> community.
> >>
> >> === Documentation ===
> >> At this time there is no NiFi documentation on the web.  However, we
> >> have extensive documentation included within the application that
> >> details usage of the many functions.  We will be rapidly expanding the
> >> available documentation to cover things like installation, developer
> >> guide, frequently asked questions, best practices, and more.  This
> >> documentation will be posted to the NiFi wiki at apache.org.
> >>
> >> == Initial Source ==
> >> NiFi has been in active development since late 2006 with contributions
> >> from dozens of developers and feedback from hundreds of users and
> >> developers.  The core codebase is written in Java and includes
> >> detailed Javadocs and feature documentation.
> >>
> >> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission ==
> >> Previously referred to as Niagarafiles, the NiFi code and
> >> documentation materials will be submitted by the National Security
> >> Agency.  NiFi has been developed by a mix of government employees and
> >> private companies under government contract.  Material developed by
> >> the government employees is in the public domain and no U.S. copyright
> >> exists in works of the federal government.  For the contractor
> >> developed material in the initial submission, the U.S. Government has
> >> sufficient authority to open source per DFARS 252.227-7014.  NSA has
> >> submitted the Software Grant Agreement and Corporate Contributor
> >> License Agreement to the Apache Software Foundation.
> >>
> >> == External Dependencies ==
> >> We have at least one dependency on an LGPL library which we will
> >> promptly address.  Otherwise, we believe all current dependencies are
> >> compatible with the ASF guidelines.  Our dependency licenses come from
> >> the following license styles:  Apache v 2.0, BSD, Public Domain,
> >> Eclipse Public v1, MIT, CDDL v1.
> >>
> >> == Cryptography ==
> >> Consistent with http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ we believe
> >> NiFi is classified as ECCN 5D002.  NiFi doesn't implement any
> >> cryptographic algorithms but is designed to use algorithms provided by
> >> Oracle Java Cryptographic Extensions, BouncyCastle, and JCraft, Inc.
> >> These cryptographic algorithm providers are used to support SSL,
> >> SSH/SFTP, and the encryption and decryption of sensitive properties.
> >> In the event that it becomes necessary we will engage with appropriate
> >> Apache members to ensure we file any necessary paperwork or clarified
> >> any cryptographic export license concerns.
> >>
> >> == Required Resources ==
> >> === Mailing Lists ===
> >>    * u...@nifi.incubator.apache.org
> >>    * d...@nifi.incubator.apache.org
> >>    * priv...@nifi.incubator.apache.org
> >>    * comm...@nifi.incubator.apache.org
> >>
> >> === Source Control ===
> >> NiFi requests use of Git for source control
> >> (git://git.apache.org/nifi.git).  We request a writeable Git repo for
> >> NiFi with mirroring to be setup to Github through INFRA.  We request
> >> sponsor Benson Margulies (bimargulies) to assist with creating the
> >> INFRA ticket for this.
> >>
> >> === Issue Tracking ===
> >> JIRA NiFi (NIFI)
> >>
> >> === Initial Committers ===
> >>    * Brandon Devries <brandon.devries at gmail dot com>
> >>    * Matt Gilman <matt.c.gilman at gmail dot com>
> >>    * Tony Kurc <trkurc at gmail dot com>
> >>    * Mark Payne <markap14 at hotmail dot com>
> >>    * Adam Taft <adam at adamtaft dot com>
> >>    * Joseph Witt <joewitt at gmail dot com>
> >>
> >> === Affiliations ===
> >>    * Brandon Devries (Requitest, Inc.)
> >>    * Matt Gilman (Raytheon)
> >>    * Tony Kurc (National Security Agency)
> >>    * Mark Payne (Sotera Defense Solutions, Inc.)
> >>    * Adam Taft (Requitest, Inc.)
> >>    * Joseph Witt (National Security Agency)
> >>
> >> == Sponsors ==
> >> === Champion ===
> >>    * Benson Margulies (Basis Technology) <bimargulies at apache dot org>
> >>
> >> === Nominated Mentors ===
> >>    * Drew Farris (Booz Allen Hamilton) <drew at apache dot org>
> >>    * Brock Noland (Cloudera) <brock at apache dot org>
> >>    * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks) <billie at apache dot org>
> >>
> >> === Sponsoring Entity ===
> >> We request the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project.
> >>
> >>
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