I don't you mind having your opinion. I guess it is not based on measurable
facts. And if it were so, then someone else would come along and say: don't
trust the data!

Best regards.

Pierre Smits

*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Of course it is community-based! (never said otherwise)
>
> And my points are attempting to inform people about the underlying
> principles of trust in these two modes of community operation. And (IMO)
> that RTC is a horrible underpinning, preventing an establishment of a true
> trust relationship among the members of the community. RTC leads with "I
> don't trust you". CTR leads with "I trust you."
>
> Others may justify their use of RTC under the rubric of "complexity", but
> as I stated else-thread that is merely an excuse. There is no
> justification, other than control. "Greg: you cannot fix javadoc tags. We
> don't trust you. Each fix must be reviewed first, and approved." Hah.
>
> -g
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > No... That is a resolution in play based on consensus by the community.
> You
> > may question that. But it is better done there.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hunh? How do you get that? I trust my fellow committers. That's not
> > > projection.
> > >
> > > If I joined Hadoop right now, RTC says I cannot commit without review.
> > That
> > > is called "lack of trust". That I am unable to determine what is safe
> to
> > > commit, and what I feel I need help with to safely commit.
> > >
> > > -g
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That is what I say: you're projecting.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> > pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >...
> > > > >
> > > > > > And by the way, this has little to do with trust. More with hope.
> > As
> > > > in:
> > > > > we
> > > > > > hope they won't abuse our trust. It seems you're projecting trust
> > > > issues!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It is ALL about trust. I've worked in the httpd, apr, and svn
> > projects
> > > > > here. I trust all of my fellow community members to commit
> > > appropriately.
> > > > > Hope doesn't come into play at all. I trust them.
> > > > >
> > > > > -g
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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