Hi Ellison Anne,

I'm also happy to be a mentor for Pirk.

I am an Apache member, and my affiliation is IBM UK Ltd (though I will
be participating on my own time, with IBM's approval, and not as part of
my day job).

Regards,
Tim

On 07/06/16 19:21, Ellison Anne Williams wrote:
> Hi Suneel,
> 
> Great - thanks!
> 
> I will add you to the list of mentors on the Pirk Proposal on the wiki.
> 
> Ellison Anne
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Suneel Marthi <smar...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> If looking for mentors, I would be glad to jump in and I have no real
>> organizational affiliation.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Completely understand where you're coming from, Henry, and thanks for
>>> keeping us honest.
>>>
>>> I'll echo Joe's sentiment that I volunteered to mentor, not due to any
>>> affiliation or interest at my dayjob, but instead my social network
>>> connecting me with the project and a personal desire to help make this a
>>> success. My affiliation is purely something following me around.
>>>
>>> At the risk of putting words into Ellison Anne's mouth: I think we would
>>> be happy to receive mentors from other affiliations. I feel pretty safe
>>> saying that 3 mentors from Hortonworks was completely circumstantial, but
>>> it is by no means meant to be interpreted as no other mentors are
>> desired.
>>> If anyone else is interested in volunteering, that would be great.
>>>
>>>
>>> Henry Saputra wrote:
>>>
>>>> HI Joe,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>>
>>>> Technically, that is what ALL mentors suppose to do. Wear different hats
>>>> when representing as Apache member.
>>>>
>>>> But we all know that is not how it happens in reality. Most people
>>>> nowadays
>>>> get paid to do open source by day employer so like it or not some
>>>> influence
>>>> of the employer will take effect.
>>>>
>>>> I would encourage do bit more homework in terms finding mentors. Others
>>>> new
>>>> podlings such as Eagle, CarbonData, and Kudu had done extra effort to
>> find
>>>> mentors from different orgs.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> - Henry
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Joe Witt<joe.w...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Henry
>>>>>
>>>>> I totally understand the spirit of your statement but I want to be
>>>>> clear in speaking for my own involvement here.  I am participating in
>>>>> this proposal and proposed podling as an apache member.  That I happen
>>>>> to work for hortonworks has absolutely nothing to do with it and
>>>>> frankly I wish it was not called out in this document.  The template
>>>>> even calls this out as a controversial item.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe I am the only one on the initial committers list that is
>>>>> affiliated with hortonworks for what it is worth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Henry Saputra<henry.sapu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One immediate concern is all mentors coming from Hortonworks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would strongly suggest to find more balance mentors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know we had this discussion about "fake" diversity stuff, but I
>>>>>>
>>>>> strongly
>>>>>
>>>>>> advise to do more effort to get mentors from different background than
>>>>>>
>>>>> one
>>>>>
>>>>>> company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Henry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016, Ellison Anne Williams<
>>>>>>
>>>>> eawilliamsp...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We would like to discuss the proposal of a new project to the
>> incubator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pirk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval (PIR).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The proposal is contained below and can also be found on the wiki at
>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PirkProposal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to the discussion -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ellison Anne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> = Pirk Proposal =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Abstract ==
>>>>>>> Pirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval (PIR).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Proposal ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk is a software framework for scalable Private Information
>> Retrieval
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> is meant to provide a landing place for robust, scalable, and
>> practical
>>>>>>> implementations of PIR algorithms. The initial scalable PIR
>> algorithms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pirk were developed at the National Security Agency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Background ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Private Information Retrieval (PIR) is an area of computer science
>> and
>>>>>>> mathematics that enables a user/entity to privately and securely
>> obtain
>>>>>>> information from a dataset, to which they have been granted access,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> without
>>>>>
>>>>>> revealing, to the dataset owner or to an observer, any information
>>>>>>> regarding the questions asked or the results obtained. Employing
>>>>>>> homomorphic encryption techniques, PIR enables datasets to remain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> resident
>>>>>
>>>>>> in their native locations while giving the ability to query the
>> datasets
>>>>>>> with sensitive terms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Rationale ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although PIR has been in existence for over twenty years, it has
>>>>>>> largely
>>>>>>> remained an academic discipline with very little robust or scalable
>>>>>>> implementation. Pirk not only provides implementations of novel
>>>>>>> scalable
>>>>>>> PIR algorithms, but it provides a framework into which robust,
>>>>>>> scalable,
>>>>>>> and practical PIR may be developed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk fits well within the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) family as
>> it
>>>>>>> depends on numerous ASF projects and integrates with several others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> such as
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hadoop and Spark. We also anticipate developing extensions/adaptors
>> for
>>>>>>> several other ASF projects such as Kafka, Storm, HBase, and Accumulo
>> in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> near future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Initial Goals ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Ensure all dependencies are compliant with Apache License version
>>>>>>> 2.0
>>>>>>> and that all code and documentation artifacts have the correct Apache
>>>>>>> licensing markings and notice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> dependable
>>>>>
>>>>>> release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache development
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> process.
>>>>>
>>>>>>   * Establish a process which allows different release cycles for the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> core
>>>>>
>>>>>> framework, extensions/adaptors, and additional algorithms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Grow the community to establish diversity of background and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> expertise.
>>>>>
>>>>>> == Current Status ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Meritocracy ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will actively seek help and encourage promotion of influence in
>> the
>>>>>>> project through meritocracy. We will discuss the requirements in an
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> forum. We will encourage and monitor community participation so that
>>>>>>> privileges can be extended to those that contribute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Community ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk currently has a community of developers within the U.S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> government. In
>>>>>
>>>>>> open sourcing Pirk we plan to grow the community to a broader base of
>>>>>>> industries and will work to align the interaction of our existing
>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Core Developers ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The initial core developers are employed by the US Government. We
>> will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> work
>>>>>
>>>>>> to grow the community among a more diverse set of developers and
>>>>>>> industries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Alignment ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk was developed with an open source philosophy in mind and the
>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>> way is consistent with the approach we have taken to date. Further,
>>>>>>> Pirk
>>>>>>> depends on numerous ASF libraries and projects including Hadoop,
>> Spark,
>>>>>>> Commons, and Maven. We also anticipate extensions and dependencies
>> with
>>>>>>> several more ASF projects, including Accumulo, Avro, HBase, Storm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kafka,
>>>>>
>>>>>> and others. This existing alignment with Apache and the desired
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> community
>>>>>
>>>>>> makes the Apache Incubator a good fit for Pirk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Known Risks ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Orphaned Products ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Risk of orphaning is limited though it is important to grow the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> community.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The project user and developer base is growing and there is already
>>>>>>> operational use of Pirk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The initial committers to Pirk have limited experience with true open
>>>>>>> source software development. However, despite the project origins
>> being
>>>>>>> from closed source development we have modeled our behavior and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> community
>>>>>
>>>>>> development on The Apache Way to the greatest extent possible. We are
>>>>>>> committed to the ideals of open source software and will eagerly seek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> out
>>>>>
>>>>>> mentors and sponsors who can help us quickly come up to speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Homogenous Developers ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The initial committers of Pirk come from a limited set of entities
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> though
>>>>>
>>>>>> we are committed to recruiting and developing additional committers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> from a
>>>>>
>>>>>> broad spectrum of industries and backgrounds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We expect Pirk development to continue on salaried time and through
>>>>>>> volunteer time. The majority of initial committers are paid by their
>>>>>>> employers to contribute to this project. We are committed to
>> developing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> recruiting participation from developers both salaried and
>> non-salaried.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Relationship with other Apache Projects ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As described in the alignment section, Pirk is already heavily
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> dependent on
>>>>>
>>>>>> other ASF projects and we anticipate further dependence and
>> integration
>>>>>>> with new and emerging projects in the Apache family.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We respect the Apache brand and desire to adopt its community
>> building
>>>>>>> principles. Our desire is to build and foster an open source
>> community
>>>>>>> around scalable, robust PIR  which aligns with the Apache tenets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Further,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache is a natural home for Pirk given our existing dependencies and
>>>>>>> alignment with ASF projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Documentation ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this time there is no Pirk documentation on the web. However, we
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> documentation included within the application that details usage.
>> Using
>>>>>>> incubator infrastructure we will be rapidly expanding the available
>>>>>>> documentation to cover things like installation, developer guide,
>>>>>>> frequently asked questions, best practices, and more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Initial Source ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The core codebase is written in Java and includes detailed Javadocs
>> and
>>>>>>> feature documentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Pirk code and documentation materials will be submitted by the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> National
>>>>>
>>>>>> Security Agency. Pirk has been developed by government employees.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Material
>>>>>
>>>>>> developed by the government employees is in the public domain and no
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S.
>>>>>
>>>>>> copyright exists in works of the federal government. NSA has submitted
>>>>>>> Corporate Contributor License Agreement to the Apache Software
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Foundation;
>>>>>
>>>>>> the Software Grant Agreement is forth coming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == External Dependencies ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We believe all current dependencies are compatible with the ASF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> guidelines.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Our dependency licenses come from the Apache v 2.0 and Eclipse Public
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> v1.
>>>>>
>>>>>> == Cryptography ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Consistent with http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ we believe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pirk is
>>>>>
>>>>>> classified as ECCN 5D002. In the event that it becomes necessary we
>> will
>>>>>>> engage with appropriate Apache members to ensure we file any
>> necessary
>>>>>>> paperwork or clarified any cryptographic export license concerns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Required Resources ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Mailing Lists ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * d...@pirk.incubator.apache.org<javascript:;>
>>>>>>>   * priv...@pirk.incubator.apache.org<javascript:;>
>>>>>>>   * comm...@pirk.incubator.apache.org<javascript:;>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Source Control ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk requests use of Git for source control (git://
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> git.apache.org/pirk.git
>>>>>
>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>> We request a writeable Git repo for Pirk with mirroring to be setup
>> to
>>>>>>> Github through INFRA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Issue Tracking ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JIRA Pirk (PIRK)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Initial Committers ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Tracy Brown<tbrownpirk at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
>>>>>>>   * Christopher Harris<Chris.Harris010 at gmail dot com>, CLA
>> submitted
>>>>>>>   * Walter Ray-Dulaney<raydulany at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
>>>>>>>   * Jacob Wilder<jacobwilder.opensource  at gmail dot com>, CLA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> submitted
>>>>>
>>>>>>   * Ellison Anne Williams<eawilliamsPirk at gmail dot com>, CLA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> confirmed
>>>>>
>>>>>>   * Joe Witt (Hortonworks)<joewitt at apache dot org>, CLA confirmed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> == Sponsors ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Champion ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks)<billie at apache dot org>, IPMC
>> Member
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Nominated Mentors ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks)<billie at apache dot org>, IPMC
>> Member
>>>>>>>   * Joe Witt (Hortonworks)<joewitt at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
>>>>>>>   * Josh Elser (Hortonworks)<elserj at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> === Sponsoring Entity ===
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We request the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project.
>>>>>>>
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