Nightly builds is all that's needed, indeed, no one needs to announce them,
they should simply be available. Agreed it's important to distinguish
between nightly builds and official releases, that's exactly how NetBeans
works currently. The #1 requirement here is that there should be nightly
builds and that is supported, from your response here.

Geertjan

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > ...the #1 requirement is for Apache NetBeans to be able
> > to produce daily/release builds and to upload them to netbeans.org or
> > another download area under Apache....
>
> Daily releases are problematic in Apache projects as the PMC needs to
> approve releases, and in general those votes last at least 72 hours
> due to our async collaboration model.
>
> AFAIK Apache Cordova for example is making very frequent releases, it
> might be interesting to find out how they enable that, in due time.
>
> Nightly builds should not be announced outside of the project's
> developers mailing lists, to mark a clear line between those and
> official releases.
>
> All those things can be discussed during incubation of course, just
> wanted to mention them due to the above #1 requirement.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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