Hi John, Thanks for your suggestion, we have looked through the graduation process carefully and made a discussion in PPMC email list sufficiently. From our guide picture[1] depict, I haven't seen the IPMC discuss process. But in the next paragraph, I noticed the description :
The resolution should be proposed on the general incubator list before a VOTE is started to allow feedback. Once a consensus has been reached, a VOTE should be started on the same general incubator list by a member of the PPMC proposing that the IPMC recommends the resolution to the Board. I’m totally confused. If the discussion in IPMC is necessary, I am willing to cancel this email and call for discussion in IPMC list :-) [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc-top-level-recommendation <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc-top-level-recommendation> Best Regards, Von Gosling > 在 2017年8月23日，11:34，John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> 写道： > > Hi Von Gosling, > > A few concerns pop up on my side when looking at this. > > - You're mixing public and private mailing lists in this email. > - You may want to review [1] - we do call out the need to forward to the > incubator that the vote. This is usually to start discussions. > Specifically we do ask in [2] that the charter be sent before a vote to > help us discuss it before the vote. > > I'd like you to consider these things and perhaps start a discussion > thread. We're more than 3 weeks ahead of the board meeting so plenty of > time to iron things out. You can see examples of what this looks like at > [3] and [4]. > > [1]: > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_graduation_process > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_graduation_process> > [2]: > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_recommendation_vote > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_recommendation_vote> > [3]: > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/214424f03d6f7b47f3abc1e3da772627390a07960daa8b95365380bc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/214424f03d6f7b47f3abc1e3da772627390a07960daa8b95365380bc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E> > [4]: > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f4050631cf7f561b8ce648ac04d9b3c86a6972b2f5e3a84e4d6139a1@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f4050631cf7f561b8ce648ac04d9b3c86a6972b2f5e3a84e4d6139a1@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E> > > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:08 PM Von Gosling <fengji...@gmail.com > <mailto:fengji...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Hello IPMC, >> >> The recent DISCUSS thread in PPMC and VOTE thread in Community on the >> topic of Apache RocketMQ graduation have been opened for at least 72 hours, >> and I believe all questions have been answered and issues addressed at this >> point. >> >> With the discussion having settled down, I would now like to call for a >> recommendation VOTE to present the ASF board with the following resolution >> to graduate from incubation and establish Apache RocketMQ as a top-level >> project (TLP). >> >> RocketMQ PPMC DISCUSS thread: >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a11743e18cf15c1c7ecbd6be7d2041453d5838a4ed2d1b8457f5dbc@%3Cprivate.rocketmq.apache.org%3E >> < >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a11743e18cf15c1c7ecbd6be7d2041453d5838a4ed2d1b8457f5dbc@%3Cprivate.rocketmq.apache.org%3E >> >> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a11743e18cf15c1c7ecbd6be7d2041453d5838a4ed2d1b8457f5dbc@%3Cprivate.rocketmq.apache.org%3E> >>> >> >> RocketMQ Community VOTE thread: >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E >> >> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E> >> < >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E >> >> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6fabcac0aeb8f649ee5e8ba2ab0c867a01d3e836c9adbd9072dc738e@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E> >>> >> >> RocketMQ Community VOTE RESULT thread: >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E >> >> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E> >> < >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E >> >> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/40cca6b958bdf0f9ec698ef35e54187fe884600c1fed4f98a79c1c2c@%3Cdev.rocketmq.apache.org%3E> >>> >> >> >> Apache RocketMQ entered incubation in November 2016. Since then there have >> been two releases and four committers and one pmc candidate member have >> been added to the project. For each release, source and binary artifacts >> have been made available. Based on the completed maturity evaluation we >> believe that the project is ready to graduate from the incubator. More >> checklist info about graduation, please refer to >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist >> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist> >> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist >> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Graduation+Checklist> >>> >> >> >> Please vote on whether to recommend the following graduation resolution to >> the ASF Board. >> >> [ ] +1, In favor of recommending the following graduation resolution to >> the ASF Board to establish Apache RocketMQ as a TLP >> [ ] +0, Neither opposed to, nor in favor of, recommending the following >> graduation resolution to the Board >> [ ] -1, Opposed to recommending the following graduation resolution to >> the Board(provide details) >> >> This VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours. Here is my vote +1. Thanks >> to all Mentors and Apache RocketMQ Project members for their support and >> contributions again. >> >> The full text of the resolution is below. If approved by the Apache >> Incubator PMC members, the proposed resolution will be submitted to the >> Board of Directors for their consideration. >> >> Establish the Apache RocketMQ Project >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of >> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish >> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance >> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >> related to a fast, low latency, reliable, scalable, distributed, easy to >> use message-oriented middleware, especially for processing large amounts >> of streaming data. >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache RocketMQ Project", be and hereby is >> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further >> RESOLVED, that the Apache RocketMQ Project be and hereby is responsible >> for the creation and maintenance of software related to a fast, low >> latency, reliable, scalable, distributed, easy to use message-oriented >> middleware, especially for processing large amounts of streaming data; >> and be it further >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache RocketMQ" be and >> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the >> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache RocketMQ >> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the >> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache RocketMQ >> Project; and be it further >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are >> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache RocketMQ >> Project: >> * Bsnyder <bsny...@apache.org> >> * Jmclean <jmcl...@apache.org> >> * Jim <j...@apache.org> >> * Ningjiang <ningji...@apache.org> >> * Von Gosling <vongosl...@apache.org> >> * Xiaorui Wang <vintagew...@apache.org> >> * Xinyu Zhou <yu...@apache.org> >> * Zhanhui Li <lizhan...@apache.org> >> * Jixiang Jin <lolli...@apache.org> >> * Dongeforever <dongefore...@apache.org> >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Xiaorui Wang be appointed to >> the office of Vice President, Apache RocketMQ, to serve in accordance >> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the >> Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal >> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it >> further >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache RocketMQ PMC be and hereby is tasked >> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open >> development and increased participation in the Apache RocketMQ Project; >> and be it further >> RESOLVED, that the Apache RocketMQ Project be and hereby is tasked with >> the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator RocketMQ >> podling; and be it further >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator >> RocketMQ podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter >> discharged. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> Von Gosling
