As we waited another 72 hours and no -1 has been cast the ip clearance has been accepted and we will proceed to incorporate the code in Felix.
regards, Karl On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great! > > I think we can just resume this vote. I updated the ip-clearance form > and will wait another 72 hours. > > If no -1 is cast within the next 72 hours I will wrap it up and we > will accept the contribution into Felix. > > regards, > > Karl > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:50 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >> Yes, an ICLA on file should suffice. >> >> John >> >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:07 PM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> John, >>> >>> we have an ICLA for Jessica now. >>> >>> However, Intel is maintaining the position that it shouldn't be >>> required to identify the software granted in detail but rather stating >>> the top-level project it is granted to should be sufficient. >>> Furthermore, they argue that they have done that many times over the >>> years and only used the project level in Schedule B. >>> >>> Personally (IANAL), I think we should be good as the size of the >>> donation isn't that big, Intel claims the copyright and has clearly >>> green lighted Jessica to contribute in their name to Felix (and we >>> have an ICLA as well) - hence: >>> >>> Are you willing to withdraw your veto based on the ICLA and the given CCLA? >>> >>> Otherwise, I guess I'll go and ask legal to see if they can clear this up. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Karl >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > John, >>> > >>> > yeah, I see that the schedule B is somewhat lacking. Oh well, ok, so >>> > basically we are fine with a CCLA but in this case we don't think the >>> > provided one is explicit enough (plus we want an ICLA for Jessica >>> > Marz). >>> > >>> > I'll let them know and get back to this thread when there is either an >>> > SGA or a new CCLA with the zip name and hash + ICLA for Jessica. >>> > >>> > Thank you for looking into this! >>> > >>> > regards, >>> > >>> > Karl >>> > >>> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:06 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >> Karl, >>> >> >>> >> I just read the CCLA that was filed. I do not believe it is clear >>> enough >>> >> in the schedule B that it contains to conclude what is meant to be >>> >> included. Since you're a chair, you should have access to it at >>> >> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/cclas/intel-corporation-felix.pdf >>> >> >>> >> Typically, to use a schedule B (as you're noting) I would expect: >>> >> >>> >> - A zip/tar archive with checksum & md5 listed OR >>> >> - A list of files >>> >> >>> >> As well as: >>> >> >>> >> - ICLA(s) on file for the individual(s). >>> >> >>> >> So you could also do another CCLA but listing out one of those two items >>> >> above, as well as request an ICLA from Jessica Marz. >>> >> >>> >> John >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:08 AM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> John, >>> >>> >>> >>> it might typically be an SGA but it does say: "This grant can either >>> >>> be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software >>> >>> Grant Agreement". Should we change that wording then? >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyways, I will follow-up with Intel via Jessica and let them know >>> >>> that the provided Corporate CLA isn't sufficient and see if they can >>> >>> provide a Software Grant Agreement instead. Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Karl >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:01 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Karl, >>> >>> > >>> >>> > If the code is already Apache licensed, then I would check w/ >>> secretary@ >>> >>> or >>> >>> > legal-discuss@ to confirm what documents need to be in place to >>> remove >>> >>> the >>> >>> > Intel copyright claim (typically those would go in to the NOTICE >>> file for >>> >>> > Apache Felix going forward). This is typically done as an SGA [1]. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > John >>> >>> > >>> >>> > [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant-template.pdf >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:57 AM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> >> Hi John, >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> the code has been available as AL with the Intel copyright already >>> >>> >> (the license headers in the files are unchanged). It is mainly an >>> >>> >> attempt to get it contributed to Apache Felix. I told them we need >>> the >>> >>> >> following (from the incubator ip-clearance form): >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> "A software grant must be provided to the ASF. This grant can either >>> >>> >> be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software >>> >>> >> Grant Agreement. The completed and signed grant must be emailed to >>> >>> >> secret...@apache.org" >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Consequently, they send (the received) CCLA which was supposed to >>> >>> >> cover for that. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Apologies if I misunderstood the requirement. Could you please help >>> me >>> >>> >> out here and list what exactly we need from Intel and/or Jessica to >>> >>> >> get this done? >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> regards, >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Karl >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:48 PM, John D. Ament < >>> johndam...@apache.org> >>> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >> > Karl, >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > CCLA [1] is just a document indicating that the corporate entity >>> has >>> >>> >> given >>> >>> >> > approval for individuals associated to it to contribute to Apache >>> >>> under >>> >>> >> > ICLAs. It really doesn't provide any legal bearing to relicense >>> code >>> >>> >> > outside of an ICLA/SGA. >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > Usually when projects come to us with an IP clearance, its for a >>> >>> >> > significant amount of code. In those scenarios, there's an SGA >>> >>> >> associated >>> >>> >> > with the contribution (from a corporate entity) indicating that >>> they >>> >>> are >>> >>> >> > licensing the ASF to use the code under the Apache license >>> >>> (irrespective >>> >>> >> of >>> >>> >> > the original license). I'm assuming that at Intel some # of >>> engineers >>> >>> >> > contributed to this code, and that it was under a proprietary >>> license >>> >>> >> until >>> >>> >> > this JIRA ticket was filed. In that case, SGA is almost always >>> the >>> >>> right >>> >>> >> > document to get signed. >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > In the situations where we see ICLAs, there isn't usually a SGA >>> >>> involved >>> >>> >> > since its covered under an ICLA for that committer and needs to be >>> >>> >> applied >>> >>> >> > as a patch/pull request. The other clear thing this indicates is >>> a >>> >>> loss >>> >>> >> of >>> >>> >> > provenance, since (I haven't looked at all of the source files) >>> we're >>> >>> >> > receiving a flat dump of code to be brought into an existing >>> >>> repository. >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > So, unfortunately, until that's resolved I'm -1 to accepting it. >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:03 AM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> >> Hi John, >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> as far as I understand the situation, the contribution has been >>> >>> >> >> submitted by Jessica Marz on behalf of Intel. The copyright is >>> >>> >> >> entirely Intel and the CCLA received is _from_ Intel, covering >>> >>> Jessica >>> >>> >> >> Marz and the contribution. Does that help? >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> regards, >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Karl >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:54 AM, John D. Ament < >>> >>> johndam...@apache.org> >>> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >>> >> >> > Hello, >>> >>> >> >> > >>> >>> >> >> > Can you please clarify whether only a CCLA was received, or if >>> >>> >> ICLAs/SGA >>> >>> >> >> > were received as well? The document indicates a CCLA was >>> received >>> >>> >> from >>> >>> >> >> an >>> >>> >> >> > individual, which doesn't sound right. >>> >>> >> >> > >>> >>> >> >> > John >>> >>> >> >> > >>> >>> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM Karl Pauls < >>> karlpa...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >> >> > >>> >>> >> >> >> Hi, >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> the Apache Felix project has received the contribution of the >>> >>> Bundle >>> >>> >> >> >> Archive File Installer Extension. >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> - The code is attached to FELIX-5732 [0]. >>> >>> >> >> >> - The IP Clearance form has been committed [1]. >>> >>> >> >> >> - The acceptance vote has passed on the dev@felix malining >>> list >>> >>> [2]. >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> The clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes are cast >>> >>> within >>> >>> >> >> >> the next 72 hours. >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> regards, >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> Karl >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5732 >>> >>> >> >> >> [1] >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-bar-file-install-extension.html >>> >>> >> >> >> [2] >>> >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@felix.apache.org/msg44409.html >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> Karl Pauls >>> >>> >> >> >> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> -- >>> >>> >> >> Karl Pauls >>> >>> >> >> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> -- >>> >>> >> Karl Pauls >>> >>> >> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Karl Pauls >>> >>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Karl Pauls >>> > karlpa...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karl Pauls >>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> > > > > -- > Karl Pauls > karlpa...@gmail.com -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
