+1 We've been using Zipkin. It's great to see this incubation proposal.
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 3:09 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote: > +1; this sounds great. > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 6:34 AM, 吴晟 Sheng Wu <wu.sh...@foxmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think Skywalking may face the same issue, few people register the > > mailing > > list because lots of discussion happen in the github issues. > > > > Yes. Many people used to discuss on GitHub. We are OK with that. We have > > 38 discussion issues[1] in this 5.0.0-RC development iteration(only a > > month). > > > > > > > I'd be happy to be the mentor of this project if you are interested.I > > guess > > there is still a room for additional mentor. > > As some part of my daily work[2] is based on the work of zipkin, I can > > devote more time on this project. > > > > > > I added you in the mentor list. Thanks. > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking/issues?q= > > is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed+label%3Aquestion+milestone%3A5.0.0-RC > > > > > > ------------------ > > Sheng Wu > > Apache SkyWalking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ Original ------------------ > > From: "willem.jiang"<willem.ji...@gmail.com>; > > Date: Sun, Aug 19, 2018 07:36 AM > > To: "general"<general@incubator.apache.org>; > > > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Zipkin for Apache Incubator > > > > > > > > +1. It's great that Zipkin can be a part of Apache Incubator project. > > > > After going through the discussion here[1], I can see Zipkin leverage > > Github infrastructure a lot, we may need to figure out if we need to > setup > > the user mailing list for this project. > > I agree with what John has said, you may consider twice for migration > user > > discussion from github to apache mailing list. > > I think Skywalking may face the same issue, few people register the > mailing > > list because lots of discussion happen in the github issues. > > > > I'd be happy to be the mentor of this project if you are interested.I > guess > > there is still a room for additional mentor. > > As some part of my daily work[2] is based on the work of zipkin, I can > > devote more time on this project. > > > > [1] https://github.com/openzipkin/openzipkin.github.io/issues/51 > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-servicecomb-saga > > > > Willem Jiang > > > > Twitter: willemjiang > > Weibo: 姜宁willem > > > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Adrian Cole <adrian.f.c...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I would like to propose Zipkin as an Apache Incubator project. > > > > > > The text of the proposal can be found below as well as on the Incubator > > > wiki: > > > > > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ZipkinProposal > > > > > > I believe we should have 3 mentors.. currently we have 2 (plus Wu > > > Sheng and I who are familiar but not mentor-grade :P). If another > > > person can volunteer to mentor us, would be sweet. > > > > > > -Adrian > > > > > > = Abstract = > > > Zipkin is a distributed tracing system. It helps gather timing data > > > needed to troubleshoot latency problems in microservice architectures. > > > It manages both the collection and lookup of this data. Zipkin’s > > > design is based on the Google Dapper paper. > > > > > > = Proposal = > > > Zipkin provides a defined data model and payload type for distributed > > > trace data collection. It also provides an UI and http api for > > > querying the data. Its server implements this api and includes > > > abstractions for storage and transport of trace payloads. The > > > combination of these parts avoid lock-in to a specific tracing > > > backend. For example, Zipkin includes integration with different open > > > source storage mechanisms like Apache Cassandra and Elasticsearch. It > > > also includes bridges to convert collected data and forward it to > > > service offerings such as Amazon X-Ray and Google Stackdriver. > > > Ecosystem offering extend this portability further. > > > > > > While primarily focused on the system, Zipkin also includes tracing > > > libraries which applications use to report timing information. > > > Zipkin's core organization includes tracer libraries written in Java, > > > Javascript, Go, PHP and Ruby. These libraries use the formats > > > mentioned above to report data, as well "B3" which is a header format > > > needed to send trace identifiers along with production requests. Many > > > Zipkin libraries can also send data directly to other services such as > > > Amazon X-Ray and Google Stackdriver, skipping any Zipkin > > > infrastructure. There are also more Zipkin tracing libraries outside > > > the core organization than inside it. This is due to the "OpenZipkin" > > > culture of promoting ecosystem work. > > > > > > = Background = > > > Zipkin began in 2012 at Twitter during a time they were investigating > > > performance problems underlying the "fail whale" seen by users. The > > > name Zipkin is from the Turkish word for harpoon: the harpoon that > > > will kill the failures! Incidentally, Zipkin was not the first tracing > > > system, it had roots in a former system at Twitter named > > > BigBrotherBird. It is due to BigBrotherBird that the de-facto tracing > > > headers we still use today include the prefix "X-B3". > > > > > > In 2015, a community of users noticed the project was not healthy in > > > so far as it hadn't progressed and often didn't accept pull requests, > > > and the Cassandra backend was stuck on an unmaintained library. For > > > example, the Apache Incubator H-Trace project started in some ways as > > > a reaction to the inability to customize the code. The root cause of > > > this was Twitter moving to internal storage (Manhattan) and also the > > > project not being managed as a product. By mid 2015, the community > > > regrouped as OpenZipkin and the codebase moved from Twitter to an org > > > also named OpenZipkin. This led to fast progress on concerns including > > > initially a server rewrite and Docker based deployment. > > > > > > In 2018, the second version of the data model completed, and along the > > > way, many new libraries became standard, including javascript, golang > > > and PHP. The community is dramatically larger than 2015, and Zipkin > > > remains the most popular tracing system despite heavy competition. > > > > > > = Rationale = > > > Zipkin is a de-facto distributed tracing system, which is more > > > important as architectures become more fine grained due to popularity > > > of microservice or even serverless architectures. Applications > > > transition to use more complex communication including asynchronous > > > code and service mesh, increasing the need for tools that visualize > > > the behavior of requests as they map across an architecture. > > > > > > Zipkin's server is focused only on distributed tracing. It is meant to > > > be used alongside existing logging and metrics systems. Generally, the > > > community optimizes brown field concerns such as interop over breaking > > > changes such as experimental features. The combination of code and > > > community make Zipkin a safe and easier choice for various sites to > > > introduce or grow their observability practice. > > > > > > = Initial Goals = > > > The initial goals are to mature OpenZipkin's community process. For > > > example, while OpenZipkin has a good collaborative process, it lacks > > > formality around project management functions defined in the Apache > > > Software Foundation (ASF). We also seek out help with brand abuse > > > which is becoming common practice in the competitive landscape, yet > > > demotivates volunteers. Towards volunteers, help with on boarding > > > summer of code and funding for those who cannot afford to get to > > > conferences on their own would be nice. Finally, we occasionally have > > > organizations who are constrained to only work with foundation > > > projects: ASF is often mentioned, and being in the ASF removes this > > > collaboration roadblock. > > > > > > Zipkin will not move all existing code into Apache. In fact, most > > > Zipkin ecosystem exists outside our org! The goal is to start with the > > > data formats and server code. Possibly the java client-side libraries > > > can move initially as well, depending on community feedback. > > > > > > = Current Status = > > > == Meritocracy == > > > Zipkin is an active community of contributors who are encouraged to > > > become committers. A Zipkin committer understands the importance of > > > seeking community feedback, and the gravity of brown field concerns. > > > Committers express diverse interest by contributing beyond their sites > > > immediate needs and acknowledging features require diverse need before > > > being merged into the core repositories. A camaraderie between > > > committers and not yet committers exists and is re-inforced with face > > > to face meetups where possible. We expect this to continue and build > > > with incubation and ideally acceptance into the Apache Software > > > Foundation (ASF). > > > > > > Zipkin encourages involvement from its community members, and the > > > issues are open and available to any developers who wish to contribute > > > to the project. The Zipkin team currently seeks help and asks for > > > suggestions utilizing zipkin-user and zipkin-dev Google groups and > > > Gitter chat on https://gitter.im/openzipkin/zipkin. While all > > > contributions are reviewed, generally a "rule of three" policy on > > > diverse need must be met before a feature is considered standard. > > > > > > == Community == > > > Zipkin has a highly active and growing community of users and > > > developers. The community is currently fostered on chat > > > https://gitter.im/openzipkin/zipkin and issues in their respective > > > GitHub repositories, notably the main server: > > > https://github.com/openzipkin/zipkin > > > > > > There are well over 1000 users in the chat room and hundreds who > > > contributed code to code in the main OpenZipkin GitHub org. Interest > > > metrics have grown dramatically: For example, in three years and a > > > month from when Zipkin began until the time OpenZipkin formed, its > > > main repository accumulated 2400 GitHub stars. In the same time after, > > > it accumulated over 6700. Other metrics such as blog count and > > > community meetings have similarly gone way up. We expect further > > > growth as more learn about Zipkin and can engage with Zipkin through > > > the guidance of the Apache Software Foundation (ASF). > > > > > > == Core Developers == > > > The core contributors are a diverse group comprised of both > > > unaffiliated developers and those hailing from small to large > > > companies. They are scattered geographically, and some are highly > > > experienced industry as well as open source developers. Though their > > > backgrounds may be diverse, the contributors are united in their > > > belief in community driven software development. > > > > > > More detailed information on the core developers and contributors in > > > general can be found under the section on homogeneous developers. > > > > > > == Alignment == > > > Zipkin adoption is growing, and it is no longer feasible for it to > > > remain as an isolated project. Apache is experienced in dealing with > > > software that is very widely accepted and has a growing audience. The > > > proposers believe that the Zipkin team can benefit from the ASF's > > > experience and its broad array of users and developers. > > > > > > Zipkin supports several Apache projects and options exist for > > > integration with others. Apache CXF, Apache Camel, Apache Incubator > > > SkyWalking and Apache Incubator HTrace all utilize Zipkin APIs in > > > their core repositories. Many more do via community extensions. Apache > > > Maven is primarily use by Zipkin, and can be used by projects who > > > build upon Zipkin projects. > > > > > > == Known Risks == > > > === Orphaned products === > > > Zipkin is already being utilized at multiple companies that are > > > actively participating in improving the code. The thriving community > > > centered around Zipkin has seen steady growth, and the project is > > > gaining traction with developers. The risks of the code being > > > abandoned are minimal. > > > > > > === Inexperience with Open Source === > > > Zipkin rebooted its community in July 2015 and grown there for over > > > three years. Additionally, many of the committers have extensive > > > experience with other open source projects. Zipkin fosters a > > > collaborative and community-driven environment. > > > > > > In the interest of openly sharing technology and attracting more > > > community members, several of our developers also regularly attend > > > conferences in North America and Europe to give talks about Zipkin. > > > Zipkin meetups are also planned every few months for developers and > > > community members to come together in person and discuss ideas. > > > > > > === Homogenous Developers === > > > At the time of the writing, OpenZipkin's core 12 developers all work > > > at different companies around the globe. Most operate their own > > > tracing sites, but some no longer operate sites at all: staying for > > > the community we've built. Our ASF champion, Mick Semb Wever, is both > > > a committer and an experienced ASF member. > > > > > > The Zipkin developers thrive upon the diversity of the community. The > > > Zipkin gitter channel is always active, and the developers often > > > collaborate on fixes and changes in the code. They are always happy to > > > answer users' questions as well. > > > > > > Zipkin is interested in continuing to expand and strengthen its > > > network of developers and community members through the ASF. > > > > > > === Reliance on Salaried Developers === > > > Zipkin has one full time salaried developer, Adrian Cole. Though some > > > of the developers are paid by their employer to contribute to Zipkin, > > > many Zipkin developers contribute code and documentation on their own > > > time and have done so for a lengthy period. Given the current stream > > > of development requests and the committers' sense of ownership of the > > > Zipkin code, this arrangement is expected to continue with Zipkin' > > > induction into the ASF. > > > > > > === Relationships with Other Apache Products === > > > Zipkin, Apache Incubator Skywalking and Apache Incubator HTrace > > > address similiar use cases. Most similarities are between Zipkin and > > > HTrace: Zipkin hopes to help serve the community formerly served by > > > HTrace, but understands the data services focus of HTrace may require > > > different tooling. SkyWalking addresses more feature surface than > > > Zipkin. For example, metrics collection is not a goal of Zipkin, yet > > > it is a goal of SkyWalking. SkyWalking accepts Zipkin formats and can > > > be used as a replacement server. SkyWalking PPMC member, Sheng Wu, has > > > been a routine member of Zipkin design discussions and has offered to > > > help Zipkin through ASF process. > > > > > > While Zipkin does not directly rely upon any Apache project, zipkin > > > supports several Apache projects. Apache CXF, Apache Camel, Apache > > > Incubator SkyWalking, Apache Incubator Dubbo, Apache Incubator > > > ServiceComb and Apache Incubator HTrace all utilize Zipkin APIs in > > > their core repositories. Many more do via community extensions. Apache > > > Maven is primarily use by Zipkin, and can be used by projects who > > > build upon Zipkin projects. > > > > > > === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === > > > Zipkin recognizes the fortitude of the Apache brand, but the > > > motivation for becoming an Apache project is to strengthen and expand > > > the Zipkin community and its user base. While the Zipkin community has > > > seen steady growth over the past several years, association with the > > > ASF is expected to expedite this pattern of growth. Development is > > > expected to continue on Zipkin under the Apache license whether or not > > > it is supported by the ASF. > > > > > > == Documentation == > > > The Zipkin project documentation is publicly available at the following > > > sites: > > > > > > * https://zipkin.io: project overview > > > * http://zipkin.io/zipkin-api/#/: swagger specification > > > * https://github.com/openzipkin/b3-propagation: header formats > > > * https://zipkin.io/zipkin/: Javadocs for the Zipkin server > > > > > > == Initial Source == > > > The initial source is located on GitHub in the following repositories: > > > > > > * git://github.com/OpenZipkin/zipkin.git > > > * git://github.com/OpenZipkin/zipkin-dependencies.git > > > * git://github.com/OpenZipkin/zipkin-api.git > > > * git://github.com/OpenZipkin/b3-propagation.git > > > * git://github.com/OpenZipkin/docker-zipkin.git > > > * git://github.com/OpenZipkin/docker-zipkin-dependencies.git > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/zipkin-reporter-java > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/brave > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/zipkin-aws > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/docker-zipkin-aws > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/zipkin-azure > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/docker-zipkin-azure > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/zipkin-gcp > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/docker-zipkin-gcp > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/brave-cassandra > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/docker-jre-full > > > * git://github.com/openzipkin/brave-karaf > > > > > > Depending on community progress, other repositories may be moved as > well > > > > > > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan == > > > Zipkin's initial source is licensed under the Apache License, Version > > > 2.0. https://github.com/openzipkin/zipkin/blob/master/LICENSE > > > > > > All source code is copyrighted to 'The OpenZipkin Authors', to which > > > the existing core community(members list in Initial Committers) has > > > the rights to re-assign to the ASF. > > > > > > == External Dependencies == > > > This is a listing of Maven coordinates for all of the external > > > dependencies Zipkin uses. All of the dependencies are in Sonatype and > > > their licenses should be accessible. > > > > > > == Cryptography == > > > Zipkin contains no cryptographic algorithms. > > > > > > = Required Resources = > > > == Mailing Lists == > > > * Zipkin-dev: for development discussions > > > * Zipkin-user: for community discussions > > > * Zipkin-private: for PPMC discussions > > > * Zipkin-commits: for code changes > > > > > > == Git Repositories == > > > The Zipkin team is experienced in git and requests to transfer GitHub > > > repositories(list in Initial Source) to Apache. > > > > > > == Issue Tracking == > > > The community would like to continue using GitHub Issues. > > > > > > = Initial Committers = > > > * Zoltán Nagy > > > * Adrian Cole, Pivotal > > > * Bas van Beek > > > * Brian Devins > > > * Eirik Sletteberg > > > * Jeanneret Pierre-Hugues > > > * Jordi Polo Carres > > > * José Carlos Chávez > > > * Kristof Adriaenssens > > > * Lance Linder > > > * Mick Semb Wever, > > > * Tommy Ludwig > > > > > > = Champion = > > > * Michael Semb Wever, m...@apache.org > > > > > > = Mentors = > > > * Michael Semb Wever, m...@apache.org > > > * Andriy Redko, r...@apache.org > > > > > > = Sponsoring Entity = > > > We are requesting the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > -- Byung-Gon Chun
