I suggest to do a PNS as soon as possible, and preferably before the
podling is established.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer


On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 7:25 PM Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name> wrote:

> Thanks Furkan, I’ll list you as a mentor too.
>
> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Antonie,
> >
> > Thanks for the proposal! Feel free to ask any questions about it. By the
> > way, right along with being an initial committer, I would like to help
> as a
> > mentor too.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Furkan KAMACI
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 9:10 PM Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >
> >> All, thank you for your expressions of interest.
> >>
> >> I have listed all names reported here and a few more colleagues and
> >> contributors in the page:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal <
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>
> >>
> >> In particular, thank you for the folks stepping forward to volunteer to
> >> mentor this project. I have listed you all on the page for now.
> >>
> >> There is still a couple of TBD points on the proposal. I will address
> them
> >> in a new thread.
> >> I will also leave this proposal open until Monday next week, so we can
> >> guarantee maximum public participation. I will engage with the incubator
> >> early next week on next steps.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:02 AM, Pierre Smits <pierresm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Antoine,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for bringing this proposal to the Apache Incubator. So I
> gladly
> >>> give my +1.
> >>>
> >>> Having a background in accounting and being one of the Apache OFBiz
> >>> contributors I am very interested in blockchain technology, while being
> >>> very interested in applying its functionalities in an ERP setting like
> >>> Apache OFBiz is.
> >>>
> >>> While the Apache Trafodion project was in incubation I was very much
> >>> involved in helping (mentoring) that project towards graduation, which
> it
> >>> has successively done. I would like to help out as one of the mentors,
> >> and
> >>> as a contributor/committer (of the other kind).
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Pierre Smits
> >>>
> >>> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President & PMC
> >>> Chair*
> >>> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> >>> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> >>> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> >> privileges)
> >>> since 2008*
> >>> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 11:42 PM Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> We’d like to start a conversation around a new proposal for a set of
> >>>> Java-based blockchain project.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have written a proposal available here, and reproduced below:
> >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal <
> >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal>
> >>>>
> >>>> At this time, we have a champion, Jim Jagielski (thanks Jim), and
> would
> >>>> like to recruit additional developers and mentors.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have deliberately left room on the project charter to engage openly
> >>>> with the community. That said, we would start the project with code
> >> coming
> >>>> from ConsenSys, and we will recruit developers from there and
> elsewhere
> >>>> actively.
> >>>>
> >>>> The goal of this thread is engage with the community and gather
> interest
> >>>> for participation in the project. Please let us know what you think!
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Antoine Toulme
> >>>>
> >>>> == Abstract ==
> >>>> Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
> >>>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM
> >> languages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please note: Cava is a contraction of "ConsenSys Java". The community
> >>>> should consider an alternate name.
> >>>>
> >>>> = Proposal =
> >>>>
> >>>> Cava is a set of libraries and other tools to aid development of
> >>>> blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and other JVM
> >> languages.
> >>>> It includes a low-level bytes library, serialization and
> deserialization
> >>>> codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions and primatives, and
> >> lots
> >>>> of other helpful utilities.
> >>>> Cava is developed for JDK 1.8 or higher, and depends on various other
> >> FOSS
> >>>> libraries.
> >>>>
> >>>> === Background ===
> >>>>
> >>>> Cava was built as an open source project from the grounds up to
> >> accelerate
> >>>> the maturation of the blockchain ecosystem, particularly in relation
> >> with
> >>>> enterprise products predominantly built in Java.
> >>>> Cava is used by several products today: Orion, Pantheon, and Artemis
> >> from
> >>>> Pegasys.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cava libraries are also used in various experiments regarding
> >> scalability,
> >>>> such as Canto.
> >>>>
> >>>> Several other community members would want to leverage Cava and would
> >>>> benefit from working directly on the project outside of the influence
> of
> >>>> the original corporate sponsor, ConsenSys.
> >>>>
> >>>> === Rationale ===
> >>>>
> >>>> Cava is organized as set of libraries that form the basis of most
> >>>> blockchain, distributed ledgers or cryptography work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Most of the work built for Cava was meant for Ethereum, but can be
> >> reused
> >>>> across other blockchain technologies.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a need for blockchain implementors to use well trusted,
> >>>> production-ready software to bootstrap their efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>> === Initial Goals ===
> >>>>
> >>>> The goal is to form a community of developers and adopters who will be
> >>>> able to collaborate openly around blockchain technologies and mature
> >>>> frameworks
> >>>> to reduce risk when implementing blockain-related projects.
> >>>>
> >>>> === Current Status ===
> >>>>
> >>>> The project is well established and counts 2 active committers. Some
> >>>> contributions were made from the community.
> >>>>
> >>>> The project has made several releases, distributed through Maven
> >> Central,
> >>>> with GPG signatures and proper Maven metadata published.
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Meritocracy:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> Active discussions on github issues and PRs has helped identify new
> >>>> possible commiters.
> >>>>
> >>>> Our main goal, moving to Apache is to promote our project as a
> >> meritocracy
> >>>> under the guideline of the Apache Way to help foster a community
> around
> >> our
> >>>> efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Community:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> Blockchain protocol developers organize well in communities, and some
> >>>> lively discussions take place over Twitter, Gitter, Telegram.
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to create a community for dedicated Java developers to
> >>>> contribute to the blockchain space.
> >>>>
> >>>> We currently have a little activity through the channels mentioned
> >> above,
> >>>> but no channel dedicated specifically to Cava is seeing a lot of
> >> traction.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Core Developers:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> Cava was built by two developers with a long experience in open source
> >>>> work. Both lead separate open source projects.
> >>>> One of the developers is the PMC Chair for Apache Buildr and a
> committer
> >>>> for Apache ODE.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Alignment:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> We believe there isn't a blockchain TLP for Java at Apache at this
> time
> >>>> and would like to participate in establishing a presence in that
> domain
> >> of
> >>>> expertise.
> >>>>
> >>>> We would rely and integrate closely with a number of projects hosted
> by
> >>>> the ASF such as Apache Camel.
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Known Risks'''
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Orphaned products''':
> >>>>
> >>>> The contributors are committed to the development of the blockchain
> >> space
> >>>> and are employed by a leading vendor in blockchain.
> >>>>
> >>>> The source code is used in a production setting by critical projects.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, the number of initial developers and contributors is small,
> and
> >>>> we will need to ramp up our recruitment efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Inexperience with Open Source:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> The project was started from scratch as an open source project. All
> >>>> committers have experience with open source projects.
> >>>>
> >>>> We did not make the effort of creating a detailed roadmap and
> >> organizing a
> >>>> collaborative approach to reaching to the community for feedback.
> >>>> We aim to rely on the ASF infrastructure, especially Jira, to help
> >> create
> >>>> more visibility in this regard.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Length of Incubation:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> We will remain in incubation for a period of no less than a year so we
> >>>> can properly invest and build a community of users, contributors and
> >>>> committers around our goals.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Homogenous Developers:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> The current list of committers is made of folks working or having
> worked
> >>>> for the same company.
> >>>> We will aggressively expand to new populations of developers, from a
> >>>> geographical and domain perspective.
> >>>>
> >>>> We believe there is a category of enterprise Java developers who are
> not
> >>>> experimenting with blockchain technologies because it looks immature
> or
> >> is
> >>>> built in other languages.
> >>>> We believe addressing this gap will help create a healthy community
> >> around
> >>>> the project.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Reliance on Salaried Developers''':
> >>>>
> >>>> The project is made first and foremost of volunteers. One of the
> initial
> >>>> committers is salaried by one of the sponsors.
> >>>>
> >>>> Given the level of interest into the project, we firmly believe the
> >>>> project would continue without salaried developers contributing to the
> >>>> project.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Relationships with Other Apache Products:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> We will work with other Apache and open source projects to help ensure
> >> we
> >>>> offer developers using our framework a cohesive approach to building
> >>>> blockchain middleware products.
> >>>> Currently the project doesn't have strong tie ins to other Apache
> >>>> projects, but we will investigate how to strenghten our relationships
> >> with
> >>>> middleware integration projects such as Apache Camel, queues and
> >> transport
> >>>> projects such as Apache Kafka, and database projects such as Apache
> >> Ignite
> >>>> and Apache Cassandra.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> We rely on the Apache Way to help bake in the best community around
> our
> >>>> project. We are educated about the sensitivity of the Apache brand and
> >> how
> >>>> to best preserve it.
> >>>> We will make sure to work with  the Incubator PMC and the PRC to
> ensure
> >>>> the brand policies are respected.
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Documentation'''
> >>>>
> >>>> You can read more about Cava at our current github repository:
> >>>> https://www.github.com/consensys/Cava
> >>>>
> >>>> We publish as part of each build a complete project documentation in
> >> Dokka
> >>>> and Javadoc formats:
> >>>> https://consensys.github.io/cava/docs/kotlin/0.6.0/cava/
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Initial Source'''
> >>>>
> >>>> All initial source is under the git repository present at
> >>>> https://www.github.com/consensys/Cava.
> >>>>
> >>>> The source is under Apache License v2.0. All source files have headers
> >>>> with a copyright notice.
> >>>>
> >>>> All contributors have signed a ICLA to assign copyright to ConsenSys,
> >> AG.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan'''
> >>>>
> >>>> The source is under Apache License v2.0. All source files have headers
> >>>> with a copyright notice.
> >>>>
> >>>> All contributors have signed a ICLA to assign copyright to ConsenSys,
> >> AG.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have no web properties (domain names or hosted content) outside of
> >> the
> >>>> github repository and the bintray repository.
> >>>>
> >>>> '''External Dependencies''':
> >>>>
> >>>> The dependencies all have Apache compatible licenses. These include
> >>>>  BSD, CDDL, CPL, MPL and MIT licensed dependencies.
> >>>> A report of the dependencies is compiled and checked for valid
> licenses
> >>>> for each build, the latest is:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://851-137528592-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/reports/license/license-dependency.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Cryptography'''
> >>>>
> >>>> The proposal involves cryptographic code directly and indirectly.
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Required Resources''':
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Mailing lists:'''
> >>>>
> >>>>  * priv...@cava.incubator.apache.org (with moderated subscriptions)
> >>>>  * d...@cava.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>  * us...@cava.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>  * comm...@cava.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Subversion Directory:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cava
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Git Repositories:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-cava.git
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Issue Tracking:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> JIRA Cava (CAVA)
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Initial Committers'''
> >>>>
> >>>> Antoine Toulme (toulmean at apache dot org) *
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Interested Developers'''
> >>>>
> >>>> TBD
> >>>>
> >>>> '''Sponsors'''
> >>>>
> >>>> ConsenSys would sponsor this project.
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Champion:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Jagielski ( jim at apache dot org )
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Nominated Mentors:'''
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Jagielski ( jim at apache dot org )
> >>>>
> >>>> * '''Sponsoring Entity''':
> >>>>
> >>>> TBD - the incubator?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
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