Hi,

JAL is also a trademark of Japan Air Lines.

Best,
Gon


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:08 AM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi -
>
> JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the
> field of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP,
> Brand.
>
> http://justanotherlanguage.org
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Antoine,
> >
> > I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we
> get
> > to that stage.
> >
> > I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.
> My
> > $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for
> confusion
> > would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal.  And while JAL, the
> > programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO
> to a
> > long standing project to just hijack the name.
> >
> > If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> > name.  My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
> > trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
> >
> > With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using
> that
> > name.  For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> > convinced differently.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so
> my
> > apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench.  I just happened to
> catch
> > the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> > here we are...
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain
> of
> >> the project.
> >> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about
> name
> >> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
> >>
> >> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
> >>
> >> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
> >>
> >> [0]:
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Antoine,
> >>>
> >>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much
> traffic
> >>> here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
> >>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> >>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> >>> open source project name.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> KAM
> >>>
> >>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>> Thanks all.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> >> other names.
> >>>> Thank you for your participation!
> >>>>
> >>>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the
> proposal.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are now set to open the podling.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Antoine
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1 for Jal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> >> [0].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> >> name for the project [1].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here are the names:
> >>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> >> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> >> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> >>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> >> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in
> the
> >> chain theme as well)
> >>>>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
> >> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> >> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of
> all
> >> the other dew drops.
> >>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> dew
> >> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> >> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
> >> feel free to justify your choice.
> >>>>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of
> a
> >> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> >> name.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> >> afternoon PST time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Antoine
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [0]:
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>> [1]:
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> >>>>>> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>> jbono...@apache.org
> >>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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> >>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >>>
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