Agreed. I think some of the conversation on that thread was likely polarizing 
and heated and my hope is that it isn't continued in this thread (whether it 
was self-justified as being "ham-handed" or not).

> On Jul 18, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> present the Incubator as a service provider for podlings.
> 
> I think the current description can be understood as the Incubator
> being a"stern gatekeeper to the ASF" and that's not good.
> 
> Defining the Incubator a service provider will give us a documented
> basis to adapt our tone and processes if we (or podlings) notice that
> we're being a stern gatekeeper again, as has happened in the past.
> 
> If people agree with the general idea we can discuss the details of
> the new text at https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/12 if needed.
> 
> I suggest using this thread more to discuss (and hopefully approve ;-)
> the general idea of this change.
> 
> I'm planning to merge #12 in the next few days unless someone from the
> Incubator PMC objects.
> 
> -Bertrand
> 
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