I see I was volunteer... OK let's do it. ---
Sent from my phone, you know what that means - sorry ________________________________ From: David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 8:31:29 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases) > > I'd like to see the IPMC get out of the way of the podlings' releases. I > see no reason for us to be a gate, and many more reasons to back off and > let podlings get their work done. > I strongly agree with your sentiment, even if I differ with your tactics a bit. I think that they are releases (e.g. we the foundation accrues a bit of risk when releasing, and in turn shield our contributors from risk as we've promised) Obviously we aren't claiming that they are perfect apache releases that meet the minimum apache guidelines for cleanliness) and that we should recognize that risk by having the fact that they are incubating clearly in the name. (Oh wait, we already do that.) We also have the new disclaimer in there for good measure. This, IMO, exposes the ASF to a very (teensy weensy) slight increase in risk, but for a much greater community gain. We have DMCA safe harbor process to shield us from a good deal of the risk. The podling gets to move faster, and hopefully learn and grow faster in the process. Failure isn't the problem, IMO. In fact we should be pushing people to fail faster, so that each time the release gets a little better, and each time the community grows, and more people understand the processes and problems. Greg - I propose that you, Ross (sorry for volunteering you), and I pick an incubating project in need of mentor attention and make this as streamlined as we can. Let's focus on educating and enabling and not gatekeeping. Let's prove out the concept and stop beating this poor horse so much. :) --David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
