HW-Chao,

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> On Sep 23, 2022, at 7:12 AM, HW-Chao Wang <576749...@qq.com.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;This is an interesting project, +1 on the proposal.&nbsp; 
> &nbsp; &nbsp; On 2022/09/23 13:06:00 Yu Li wrote: &gt; Thanks all for the 
> positive feedback! &gt;  &gt; @Willem &gt; The proposal is updated and both 
> the project rename plan and github ids of &gt; core developers have been 
> added. Please check it and let us know if any &gt; further suggestions. 
> Thanks. &gt;  &gt; Best Regards, &gt; Yu &gt;  &gt;  &gt; On Fri, 23 Sept 
> 2022 at 20:41, Xiaoqiao He  wrote: &gt;  &gt; &gt; This is an interesting 
> project, +1 on the proposal and good luck to Datark! &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Best 
> Regards, &gt; &gt; - He Xiaoqiao &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 
> 7:55 PM Willem Jiang  &gt; &gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi Yu, &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks for the explanation. Please add a rename plan 
> to the project &gt; &gt; &gt; proposal. &gt; &gt; &gt; I'd be happy to be the 
> mentor of this project. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; BTW,  Could you update 
> the Core Developers information with their &gt; &gt; &gt; github id,  it 
> could be easy for us to track the contributions. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Willem Jiang &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Twitter: 
> willemjiang &gt; &gt; &gt; Weibo: 姜宁willem &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On 
> Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:41 PM Yu Li  wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; Hi Willem, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Referring to the 
> recent incubation process of streampark [1] and &gt; &gt; uniffle &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; [2], it seems they didn't rename their original project names 
> before &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; entering apache incubator, thus we didn't plan to 
> change the original &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; github project name but would 
> redirect it to the new project after &gt; &gt; &gt; entering &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; incubation. OTOH, if such a rename is necessary before incubation, we 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; will &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; need some internal approval to 
> process. Thanks. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Best Regards, &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Yu &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [1] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/ns5n6ozl1mdvdbhmkfol67lt163m74v3 &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; [2] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/fyyhkjvhzl4hpzr52hd64csh5lt2wm6h &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 
> 09:07, Willem Jiang  &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; I just checked the source repo, it is still using the name of &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; RemoteShuffleService. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Is there 
> any plan for when we will change the project name? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 11:45 AM Yu Li  wrote: &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi All, &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I would like to propose Datark 
> [1] as a new apache incubator &gt; &gt; &gt; project, and &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; you can find the proposal [2] of Datark for more details. &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Datark is an intermediate 
> (shuffle and spilled) data service for &gt; &gt; big &gt; &gt; &gt; data &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; compute engines (Apache Spark, Apache Flink, Apache 
> Hive, etc.) to &gt; &gt; &gt; boost &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> performance, stability, and flexibility. It aims at enabling &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> computing &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; engines to fully embrace the 
> disaggregated architecture. In a lot &gt; &gt; of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> cases, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; intermediate data depends on large local 
> disks, and is often a &gt; &gt; major &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cause &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of inefficiency, instability, and inflexibility in 
> the lifecycle &gt; &gt; of a &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; distributed job. 
> Datark solves the problems through the following &gt; &gt; &gt; core &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; designs: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 1. Push-based shuffle plus partition data aggregation to 
> turn &gt; &gt; random &gt; &gt; &gt; IO &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; access 
> into sequential access. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. FileSystem-like API 
> to support writing spilled data. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 3. 
> Hierarchical storage from memory to DFS/object store to enable &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> fast &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cache and massive storage space. &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 4. Engine-irrelevant APIs for easy integrating to various 
> engines. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 5. Extended fault tolerance and data 
> replication to increase &gt; &gt; &gt; reliability &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Datark is currently adopted in the 
> production environment at both &gt; &gt; &gt; Alibaba &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; and many other companies, serving petabytes of data per day. Beyond 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; that, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it has more open source 
> users including Shopee, NetEase, Bilibily, &gt; &gt; &gt; BOSS, &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and Synnex. Most of these users have made contributions 
> to the &gt; &gt; &gt; project, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; forming an 
> active community with dozens of developers. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The proposed initial committers are interested 
> in joining ASF to &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; reinforce &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; extensive collaboration and build a more vibrant community. We &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; believe &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> Datark project will provide tremendous value for the community if &gt; &gt; 
> it &gt; &gt; &gt; is &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; introduced into the Apache 
> incubator. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I will 
> help this project as the champion and many thanks to our &gt; &gt; four &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; other &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; mentors: &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Becket Qin 
> (j...@apache.org) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Duo Zhang 
> (zhang...@apache.org) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Lidong Dai 
> (lidong...@apache.org) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Willem Jiang 
> (ningji...@apache.org) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; FWIW, although with different solutions, the issues Datark aims to &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; resolve &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; have some overlap 
> with Apache Uniffle (incubating) [3]. Actually we &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> noticed &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; this during the discussion phase of 
> Uniffle incubation (when we &gt; &gt; were &gt; &gt; &gt; also &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; preparing for the incubation) and had some open and friendly 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; discussion &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; see whether there could be a joint force [4], and finally decided 
> &gt; &gt; to &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; develop independently for the time 
> being [5]. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Look 
> forward to your feedback. Thanks. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Best Regards, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Yu &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [1] 
> https://github.com/alibaba/RemoteShuffleService &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> [2] &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/DatarkProposal &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [3] https://uniffle.apache.org/ &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; [4] &gt; &gt; 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/1w74z5f0pb7bhslhzcl5x7rdj9s9objz &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [5] &gt; &gt; 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/pg8lzhzc1794x3yloqp169j0mdzqs3yw &gt; &gt; 
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
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