I know of former podlings that have been TLPs for five years that still have 
assets that read https://project.incubator.apache.org 
<https://project.incubator.apache.org/> - I think requiring a DISCLAIMER on the 
main page of every podling website would be better in the long run. The 
DISCLAIMER could include links back to 
https://incubator.apache.org/project/podling 
<https://incubator.apache.org/project/podling> with clear indication that it is 
incubating and what the reported status is.

Whimsy’s project site check could check that the DISCLAIMER is removed while 
the podling one checks that the DISCLAIMER is present.

Best,
Dave

> On Feb 28, 2024, at 5:56 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 15:41, PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org 
> <mailto:fannin...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> +1 binding
>> Formalises what most podlings are doing anyway.
> 
> Not so, according to the podling analysis:
> 
> https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/check/uri 
> <https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/check/uri>
> 
>> On Wed 28 Feb 2024, 16:13 Alex Porcelli, <a...@porcelli.me> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:01 AM Suyan <suyanh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> +1 non-binding
>>>> 
>>>> This looks a little more concise.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Suyan
>>>> 
>>>> Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> 于2024年2月28日周三 08:18写道:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was policy at one point for podlings to have .incubator. in their
>>> home page url. But many podlings now have transitioned away from this and
>>> simply use their podling.apache.org name. The policy document is a bit
>>> iffy on the subject:
>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
>>>>> 
>>>>>> After a podling has been approved, the lists are created, and the
>>> initial code drop has commenced, you MUST refer to the podling as Apache
>>> Podling-Name AND mention that the project is under Incubation. Suitable
>>> mentions include:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>      • Inclusion of the http://podling-name.incubator.apache.org/
>>> URL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>      • Apache Podling-Name is currently undergoing Incubation at
>>> the Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Incubator PMC (IPMC) must approve other references before you
>>> publish them. You only need to make these statements upon the first
>>> reference to the podling in a document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I feel this is very much like the former requirement for mail lists to
>>> include incubator.apache.org as part of their name. This turned out to be
>>> a huge waste of time for the podling as well as for infra when upon
>>> graduation all of the documentation and tooling for mail lists had to
>>> change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would propose that as part of our official policy we recommend the
>>> podling's url as https://podling.apache.org and get rid of the
>>> .incubator. in the url.
>>>>> 
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>> c...@apache.org
>>>>> 
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