tison, We've talked with the Hibernate team, and Alex has been a Hibernate contributor. They've sent out emails to the list of contributors asking about switching. We don't have a firm date yet, as you know these things take time, but they are actively working on it.
On 2024/03/05 17:35:50 tison wrote: > Thanks for reaching out Alex :D > > I agree with PJ and emphasize that we should highlight the license > issue on release. > > Also, for others in this thread, the thorough solution described above is: > > > The Hibernate team is in the process of relicensing from LGPL to Apache > > License 2.0. > > To Alex: > > How much confidence do you have in this direction? Are you involved in > this effort? > > What if the relicensing doesn't happen? Do you have an alternative plan? > > Best, > tison. > > Alex Porcelli <porce...@apache.org> 于2024年3月6日周三 01:25写道： > > > > Thank you PJ! This is very helpful! > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:23 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#disclaimers > > > > > > Have a look at the Disclaimers doc. If you use the WIP Disclaimer then you > > > can do releases that are not fully ASF compliant. It would be good to > > > document clearly about this dependency license issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue 5 Mar 2024, 17:53 Alex Porcelli, <porce...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Members of the Apache Incubator, > > > > > > > > I hope this email finds you well. My name is Alex Porcelli, and I am > > > > part of the Apache KIE podling community [1]. I am reaching out to > > > > discuss a matter regarding a dependency we have under LGPL, which > > > > falls under Category X according to Apache guidelines. > > > > > > > > The dependency is Hibernate ORM [2], the only supported JPA provider > > > > for Quarkus [3] - the primary runtime provider for Apache KIE podling. > > > > > > > > However, I'd like to emphasize the urgency of our situation. Our > > > > community has dedicated substantial effort over the past six months to > > > > prepare for our initial Apache release. Unfortunately, this delay in > > > > releasing Apache KIE is unprecedented for this community, and it is > > > > critical for us to deliver new releases promptly. Not only does our > > > > large user base eagerly anticipate a new release, but older versions > > > > may also pose security vulnerabilities (CVEs). Additionally, with our > > > > previous release process through Red Hat decommissioned, Apache now > > > > stands as our sole means of distribution. > > > > > > > > Given these circumstances, I kindly ask the Apache Incubator to > > > > consider granting us a temporary exception to maintain the LGPL > > > > dependency for our initial releases. We understand the importance of > > > > adhering to Apache licensing requirements and are willing to make > > > > necessary adjustments while ensuring compliance. However, we believe > > > > that allowing us to proceed with proper disclaimers in place would > > > > enable us to maintain momentum and meet the expectations of our user > > > > community. > > > > > > > > Furthermore, I would like to inform you that the Hibernate team is in > > > > the process of relicensing from LGPL to ASLv3, as indicated in their > > > > recent blog post [4]. This transition aligns with our long-term goals > > > > and demonstrates our commitment to compliance with Apache guidelines. > > > > > > > > We are open to any guidance or suggestions from the Incubator PMC on > > > > how best to proceed. > > > > > > > > Thank you for considering our request. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Alex Porcelli > > > > Apache KIE Podling Community Member > > > > > > > > [1] - Apache KIE: https://kie.apache.org/ > > > > [2] - Hibernate ORM: https://hibernate.org/orm/ > > > > [3] - Quarkus: https://quarkus.io/ > > > > [4] - Blog post on relicensing: > > > > https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
