Hi Twice,

Thanks for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
We will remove the ads, including tancloud, subject to the foundation’s rules. 

Best wishes,
Tom

On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote:
> Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing 
> advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in 
> README.md)?
> 
> Best,
> Twice
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Chao Gong <gongc...@apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
> 
> Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Tom
> 
> On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> > time.
> >
> > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> > will face after you donate your company core project to a
> > vendor-neutral foundation.
> > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> > Think deeply.
> > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> > startup.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> > Chao Gong <gongc...@apache.org> 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Sheng,
> > >
> > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains 
> > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, 
> > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single 
> > > repository.
> > >
> > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We 
> > > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from 
> > > Hertzbeat.
> > >
> > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build 
> > > SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure 
> > > that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to 
> > > the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, 
> > > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> > >
> > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> > >
> > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to 
> > > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that 
> > > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be 
> > > patient in participating in incubation.
> > >
> > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s 
> > > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > I have more questions around this project.
> > > >
> > > > I saw from the proposal,  https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> > > >
> > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> > > > style, etc.
> > > > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> > > > the future.
> > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> > > > rebuild their home page before the donation?
> > > >
> > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> > > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered
> > > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could
> > > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done,
> > > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like
> > > > TanCloud do.
> > > >
> > > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the
> > > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company'
> > > > legal part?
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Chao Gong <gongc...@apache.org>于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to 
> > > > >> indicate that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source 
> > > > >> community organized by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it 
> > > > >> does not own the copyright of projects.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to 
> > > > >> the requirements of the incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not 
> > > > > included. The foundation is vendor neutral.
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best wishes,
> > > > >> Tom
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi IPMC members,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - 
> > > > >> > HertzBeat.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring
> > > > >> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance
> > > > >> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom 
> > > > >> > monitoring
> > > > >> > and status page building capabilities.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Here is the proposal -
> > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the 
> > > > >> > project
> > > > >> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin 
> > > > >> > Mclean
> > > > >> > (jmcl...@apache.org).
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Zhang Yonglun
> > > > >> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
> > > > >> >
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