Perfect this CC worked for receiving via Email. I used this method for subscribing: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Maybe I need to redo those subscriptions. V/R --- Mark Perry MITRE Caldera Lead Adversary Emulation Capability Area Lead (Acting) Applied Cybersecurity Engineer Office (703) 983-7322 From: sebb <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, April 12, 2026 at 6:55 PM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [EXT] Re: What's going on with Caldera? On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 at 23: 38, Mark Perry <mperry@ apache. org> wrote: > > Also i'm not getting any emails from response like Justin's above to my email on file. > > Is that a problem. I just check this board for updates, since On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 at 23:38, Mark Perry <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also i'm not getting any emails from response like Justin's above to my email > on file. > > Is that a problem. I just check this board for updates, since there are no > updates provided by email. You don't appear to be subscribed to any Caldera mailing lists, nor indeed to this incubator list (I added you as Cc to this reply) > On 2026/04/12 22:22:32 Mark Perry wrote: > > Yes Justin, > > I can confirm I have conveyed this to the rest of the project members, > > and now that we are aware of this process ALL communications will be > > through the lists for open communication and visibility. > > > > For updates to our ICLAs, accounts, SGA progress; would the appropriate > > list be this general list or our dev mailing list. I have some updates to > > provide. > > > > Also I applied for the Confluence access and still haven't received login > > credentials. I would like to get that form filled out as quickly as > > possible. Is this also the place to discuss that @dev or another? > > > > On 2026/04/10 03:55:36 Justin Mclean wrote: > > > Hi Rachel, Mark, > > > > > > Thanks for the update, it’s helpful to understand where things are at. > > > > > > However, I want to be very clear about expectations in the Apache > > > Incubator, as this is fundamental to how projects operate here. > > > > > > At the ASF, all project communication and decision-making must happen on > > > the public mailing lists. This isn’t optional or just a preference; it’s > > > a core part of the governance model. Work happening off-list (for > > > example, via private email) is effectively invisible to the community, > > > making it very difficult for mentors and the IPMC to assess progress or > > > provide help. > > > > > > From what’s been shared so far, there are a few immediate issues that > > > need to be addressed: > > > - All PPMC members and contributors should subscribe to the relevant > > > mailing lists and start using them for all project communication > > > - Questions, updates, and decisions should be moved onto the mailing > > > lists rather than handled privately > > > - The initial setup tasks (ICLAs, accounts, SGA progress, reporting) > > > should be discussed openly so others can assist > > > - Reporting needs to happen as required, especially in the early stages > > > of incubation (see the Reporting Guide: > > > https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_INCUBATOR_Reporting-2BGuide&d=DwIFaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=otO5PEzJ97hWtOQlVslKw4R9DQ99Zhl_J38Wlx4h35w&m=v1TBOIkKXrgBxxznzLqI_Bjjj1N6fdMgAWanx-g5XZ3bLRJ0-LQohSd4THffOFvt&s=65ryITS0ZgsAFWUqWOod6x0cPzxKvKPJMPZVDF1Vd2Y&e=) > > > > > > For reference, these pages outline how projects are expected to operate: > > > - Communication in Apache Projects: > > > https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_INCUBATOR_Communication-2Bin-2BApache-2BProjects&d=DwIFaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=otO5PEzJ97hWtOQlVslKw4R9DQ99Zhl_J38Wlx4h35w&m=v1TBOIkKXrgBxxznzLqI_Bjjj1N6fdMgAWanx-g5XZ3bLRJ0-LQohSd4THffOFvt&s=8E2d7P8wNu0eGZ2xx_3qQBQLmKFWn0_MrlpgSLFnHOs&e= > > > - Governance in Practice: > > > https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_INCUBATOR_Governance-2Bin-2BPractice&d=DwIFaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=otO5PEzJ97hWtOQlVslKw4R9DQ99Zhl_J38Wlx4h35w&m=v1TBOIkKXrgBxxznzLqI_Bjjj1N6fdMgAWanx-g5XZ3bLRJ0-LQohSd4THffOFvt&s=XCie3uxr_2FqBqlPKFBRxLcwq8s5HHKexc8jDa0E_lQ&e= > > > > > > Delays around the SGA are understandable, especially when legal teams are > > > involved, but they shouldn't block other incubation activities. There is > > > still plenty that can and should be happening in parallel. > > > > > > At the moment, the main concern is not just slow progress, but a lack of > > > visible community activity. Without that, it becomes difficult to justify > > > the podling's continued incubation. > > > > > > The good news is that this is fixable, and relatively quickly, if > > > communication shifts onto the mailing lists and the community starts > > > engaging there. > > > > > > If you need guidance on working in the open at the ASF, mentors and the > > > IPMC are here to help, but that support needs to happen on-list so others > > > can see and contribute. > > > > > > Can you confirm that going forward, all project communication will take > > > place on the mailing lists, and outline the immediate next steps you plan > > > to take? > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Justin > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >
