I'm not trying to be a PITA, but shouldn't this thread be posted on the
Tomcat-Dev list where all the Tomcat developers can join in the fun?

-T.

GOMEZ Henri wrote:
> 
> >Pier / Henri - Care to summerise the tomcat 5 flamewars and other stuff
> >there? or maybe find someone else to do so? I don't have the
> >time to look
> >into it myself so if its gonna go in then someone else needs
> >to write it.
> 
> I'll try to summarise and Pier will make the necessary comments.
> 
> The TOMCAT 5.0 proposal was launched by Remy.
> 
> The goal was to design the next generation Tomcat, using
> the best parts of Tomcat 3.3 and 4.x, using an improved
> version of coyote (2.0) code as core, and using catalina
> 2.0 as servlet container.
> 
> The great thing in that proposal is that members from the
> 2 olds teams, 3.3 and 4.x agreed on contributing and working
> together putting the best they learn from 3.3/4.x.
> 
> There was a proposal from the Avalon team to use Avalon as
> core, but it was rejected by Remy, who prefer to have something
> more suitable and lighter for the TOMCAT core.
> 
> Pier then ask for a Tomcat HA (High Availability), arguing
> that Tomcat 4.x (he didn't speak about 3.2 or 3.3) was too
> unstable so it couldn't use it in its production site.
> 
> There was then a lengthy discussion about stability which
> should be a major goal and so on.
> 
> Many people (tomcat-dev) reported having no problems with
> Tomcat 4.0 or 3.3.
> 
> To note, the thread was conducted at the same times that many
> of us make extensive tests on mod_jk 1.2.0 and sus make huge
> tests on the connector with Apache 1.3/2.0 and Tomcat 3.3/4.0.4
> to detect failure in the connector (or in tomcat), and it
> appears that there was no major problems with both 3.3/4.0.4.
> 
> As some writers commented, the stability of a web application,
> depends on many parts, tomcat being one of them, the real
> java application and remote side (SQL/enterprise applications)
> being also mandatory.
> 
> To summarise, I could say that all of us (tomcat developpers)
> want to have the stablest engine possible and the thread is open.
> 
> Nota, that the latest proposal is in tomcat4-head :
> 
> <snipet>
> 
> The major goals for Apache Tomcat 5.0 are to:
> - improve scalability, reliability and performance over previous versions
> - have simpler/cleaner code, so more people can get involved
> - merge of the various ideas in 3.x and 4.x
> - get the community togheter
> - provide maximum modularity and compliance to the standards
> - make it easy to continue to maintain the existing codebases
> 
> </snipet>
> 
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