On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 10:39, A. Gunes Koru wrote: > > Dear Andy, > > First of all, I would prefer to discuss these matters individually not on > the list. However, because you are sending e-mails to the list I need to > write it to the list too. >
Then you might have taken my smartassed remarks personally... oh wait.. ;-) > I am also in this list and I don't see the number of surveys blooming. > This is totally an incorrect statement. The e-mails I sent is related to > the questions at the very heart of development. So, if they are > unsolicited, unrequired, one can easily argue that non of the e-mails is > required. > This is a circular argument... If my smartass remarks on your survey are unsolicited, unrequired then one can easily argue that any response to your survey.... ;-) > Regarding to the second part of e-mail, I think everybody in this list is > clever enough to see you are just trying to place some definitions or > labels. I am 30 years old I think I have been in many projects, which > allow me to talk about what I know precisely. There are people doing their > Ph.D. in their 40s and 50s. So, would you call them kids too? You only > judge or identify yourself with what you say. You can not identify > others. I think, any person who gained true mastery in a field would not > feel this need to do it anyways. > It was a generalization based on the last few of these surveys I've gotten. There are always exceptions. > Let people decide. I have been received over 110 answers. Let me ask you > this. If there are people in this project interested in what I am writing, > how can you feel comfortable trying to put down this communication. Do > you think your friends do not have the ability to distinguish what is > useful, what is relevant, what is not? > Because its was my opinion. I've never gained any really useful information out of surveys, most especially on software development. > As I conclude, I should say that I am truly inspired with what I am doing > and would like to remind this To each their own. If Surveys inspire you...go for it. If making smartass remarks about how many surveys I get in a day inspires me...well I'll go for it ;-) You know what I hate most about surveys? Trying to characterize my answers into one of the choices. I am that dot you throw out because it falls outside of the acceptable range of deviation ;-) > "I might disagree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death > your right to say it." > Voltaire > exactly ;-) -Andy > To everybody, if the things I write in my e-mails make sense, please > visit: > > http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/dhsurvey.html > > and fill out my survey, if you haven't done yet. > > Regards > > A. Gunes Koru > http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru > > =========================================================== > >I answered the first two or three of these that was sent to me (student > >studies)... But they seem to be blooming rapidly. One could > >hypothesize through the use of some kind of mathematical model that > >if one continues to participate they will increase exponentially and > >eventually one will answer surveys with all of the time they would spend > >actually participating in open source software projects. > > > >We should round these kids up and get them to maybe create a student > >survey information site. They could do it as their own opensource > >project and then collect the data they need from themselves ;-) > > > >-Andy > ========================================================= > On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 10:38, Gunes Koru wrote: > > > > Hello Jakarta contributors, > > > > I am conducting a survey about the way bugs are handled in open source > > software projects. The survey includes questions that can be answered by > > developers,testers, bug fixers, project managers, and owners of defect > > databases. It is only and only for research purposes and it is very easy > > to fill out. It consists of three short sections which can be completed > at > > once or in different sessions. Please fill it out if you haven't done > yet. > > You will find the questions interesting since there is a reason behind > > each one one of them. They will make you think about how things work (or > > could work)in your project. The survey can be found in the address: > > > > http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/dhsurvey.html > > > > The data in the bug databases can be used to identify the high risk > areas > > in the software development. One of the ways of doing it is constructing > > tree-based models, which could be very useful in open source projects. > If > > you would like to read about it, I prepared a web page for you: > > > > http://www.seas.smu.edu/~gkoru/surveys/tbdm1.html > > > > Please accept my apologies if you receive duplicates of this e-mail. > This > > is a survey, which will give useful results for all of us. I will try to > > prepare and make some preliminary results on-line within the next two > > weeks. Since this is a survey, covering many important open source > > projects, it will be interesting for everybody to see what kind of > quality > > assurance work is going on in the other projects. As always, we are very > > dedicated to this research. Please contact me for any question you might > > have. > > > > Thank you, > > > > A. Gunes Koru > > http://www.engr.smu.edu/~gkoru > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- > http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business > http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in > Java > http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project > structure > a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex > Projects! > The avalanche has already started. 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