As an experiment, I tried asking some non-Jakarta people about some of the issues we face: http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jspa?forumID=61&threadID=10427
Some comments that made me smile were: "Honestly, Jakarta doesn't mean much to me at all, other than some arbitrary grouping under Apache. I respect the Apache brand, not Jakarta, and it seems quite random to me how some java products are under jakarta, some under xml, and some elsewhere. " "I tend to see Jakarta simply as the Java arm of the Apache organisation. If I'm looking for Java components from Apache I know to go to jakarta.apache.org I don't really see why any of the projects have moved outside of the Jakarta project - to me it just fragments things and weakens the brand. Can't those projects be brought back onboard?" "As regards to what project should be where, frankly, I think Ant and Tomcat have been the Flagship projects for Jakarta and they are probably best in the market. In fact I wonder why they don't have a tomcat.apache.org as it's so popular. " "IMHO I think Apache is too hierarchy that a project only belong to one group (just my opinion). My suggestion is a project can have more than one group where it related for example batik can belong to XML & Java group. It will be more like a network structure rather than bottom up tree structure." Stephen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]