If I were the chair of the Jakarta PMC and a board member and favored seeing Jakarta split up into TLPs, I'd do this:
1. Put everyone on the PMC 2. Get them in a reorganization type discussion Because the bulk of the 700? committers at Apache are in Jakarta and the bulk of the discussion has no technical basis whatsoever to guide it, it would eventually get frustrating and the participants would come to the inevitable conclusion to which I wanted to guide them: Jakarta is unsustainable. Once the deed was done I could even step aside and watch it burn. However, if that were not my position and I were that same person, I'd guide them to a middle ground where Jakarta was more of an administrative body which handles Pan-Jakarta issues and each project had its own PMC responsible for its own issues (releases,etc). This would of course achieve much the same thing as TLPs without all of the constitutional convention-like discussion which will inevitably move to "the meaning of democracy, meritocracy" and finally to some kind of equation to Hitler or Nazism. (http://cbbrowne.com/info/godwin.html, http://www.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/godwins.law) The first would of course assume that I favored indirect manipulation as opposed to just stating my viewpoint. http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/946.html This isn't intended to really contribute to the discussion since I doubt I can change its inevitable path at this point. It is only to provide me with the empty satisfaction of saying "I told you so" later. ;-) Have fun. I'm mostly skimming now. Someone let me know if I miss anything that actually requires my attention. -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
