On Sep 29, 2004, at 4:56 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote:So what would the answer of the first question of Oliver ("can I useis not ASF License compliant?
If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins/hibernate/src/main/ org/apache/maven/hibernate/beans/SchemaExportBean.java?annotate=1.7
This would compromise all Maven releases that include the
maven-hibernate-plugin. We distribute Binary and Source from apache.org
sites...
Thanks for bringing this up. I've been meaning to respond to this
thread with that in mind. I think we've checked this in the past and
because the ASF is not distributing the hibernate code, there wasn't a
problem (as you say, hibernate is downloaded from ibiblio when the
user chooses to use the hibernate plugin).
Hibernate in an ASF project") now be? If I got it right; Oliver wants to implement a Slide Store that uses
Hibernate as back-end. According to your answer, he could do this as
part of the official Slide distribution, as long as it does not contain
the hibernate.jar itself (which could be downloaded as part of the build
process (maven or ant)).
The problem, AFAIU, is that this Maven's code now has to become LGPL licensed itself, due to LGPL license requirements. And ASF repositories can't contain LGPL code. So the answer is to pull (quickly) this code from Maven, and not to introduce to Slide.
No - LGPL isn't viral unless you make derivative works of the LGPL-ed code itself. Just using an LGPL-ed codebase as a library does not trigger the virality.
The problem is that for java, there are questions about the clarity of the provisions in the license that prevent the virality from taking effect, which is why the ASF doesn't allow LGPLed java usage.
This is a position that I'm trying to find a compromise for.
geir
I agree, that we need a clarification (best would be a legal council
backed clarification). Having to move every bit of maven code that references LGPL off-ASF
would hit quite a few plugins. :-(
Somebody could setup mavendev.org (see cocoondev.org) to host (L)GPL pieces.
PS Copying PMC because action is required
Vadim
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