On 28 Dec 2004, at 20:43, Martin Cooper wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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It has problems. Mainly in that it doesn't really provide much a context
sensitive message. It should be mentioning signatures, keys, md5s etc. It
also loses the navigation of the project it's on and dumps you into a
global Apache navigation. However, I think it's the right solution
architectually. A dynamic page that contains a standard message and is
filled with dynamic info.
I actually think that page is horrible. Almost the entire page is filled with stuff the user doesn't care a whit about - a big list of mirror sites. The vast majority of users don't care about mirror sites, they just want to download what they want. The list of mirror sites should be stashed away in a drop-down list, as we have it now.
horrible it might be but it was also horribly effective at it's job (which was to stop using download direct from apache.org). however, i think that users have got used to downloading from mirrors now so the time's probably ripe for change.
I think, if we had a standard "template" for download pages, each subproject could have its own download page, something like we have for Struts:
http://struts.apache.org/download.cgi
this would be a more workable approach. I don't see a need to have one page with all of the available downloads (with the possible exception of Commons, but I'm not sure we need that either).
it's better but would require some effort. it's also quite a PITA for non-members (changes would be required to some scripts which is what stopped me last time i thought about revising the download pages). any members with good infrastructure links feel like volunteering...?
i actually think that henri's idea about a single summary page for each sub-project would be a good idea containing mailing lists, a brief description, downloads and so on. would make it easy to add redirects later (as projects moved to top level). it'd make some sense in terms of making jakarta more like a portal and less like an ASF mini-me.
- robert
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