Really? It is now such an ungainly language i doubt even its description could be fit in 8K. Bill Gates APL is afaik and most other folks was entirely mythological. Perhaps Mr Gates was a far better lawyer than programmer:-)
K was a real language though. i only use the past tense as it is not available, now, as a separate product: one must get Q (which is Arthurs styling of SQL) K was, and still is, the underlying implementation of Q and one could and can always escape to it. The Wall St mavens it was sold to liked and used the retrieval aspect for much more worth than its language aspect. A language based on APL and Scheme is quite doable (and we have excellent existence proof in K). That language can take up very little space as the simpler and language is the less space required for its implementation - but that says nothing about its power. K with a full OS and IO would be relatively easy to implement on a small machine. And quite possible given the access to all the widgets that Linux does. Perhaps you are too young to have participated in the colloquy involving J and K? Thought you were older than that. In any case Ken and Arthur go way back. Arthur made the language APL+, which is available now as freeware, and was in the discussion on the foundations of J. He wrote a one page program for the rudiments of J - that Roger studied for the design of J. i forget what it was called, the incunabulum? Someone help me out. In any case there is a URL where that fragment still exists. Personally i believe that J is going in a direction which i do not believe is fully optimal for web use. Fine for mathematicians and standalone usage. i would like to see a language, with the array manipulation capabilities of APL, be written in Javascript and small. Then it can be downloaded and used almost universally. But there is much research and implementation going on in this big world, eg bondi, fish, etc http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3695 http://www-staff.it.uts.edu.au/~cbj/Publications/shapes.html ~greg krsnadas.org -- from Oleg Kobchenko <[email protected]> to General forum <[email protected]> date 28 February 2010 02:45 subject Re: [Jgeneral] Newbie musings 1: Pocket PCs ... And Bill Gates's BASIC used to fit in 8k. What does it have to do with Pocket PC? -- from greg heil <[email protected]> to General forum <[email protected]> date 25 February 2010 20:47 subject Re: [Jgeneral] Newbie musings 1: Pocket PCs k is based on scheme and apl it uses less symbols than j to express something, runs ragged arrays which j does not, and fits on a floppy ... with IO & OS ~greg krsnadas.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
